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Johnny2X2X

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77. Musk

Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:52 AM

Jan 28

Once Musk got involved I was concerned, I don't think most people fully appreciate the power social media weilds when it's used the way it was. Then when he won and Zuckerberg came out of the woodwork, it became clear to me, Harris had no chance.

And TikTok was a pawn too. Trump used the ban to work with them behind the scenes in a promise to save them if they helped him. Wouldn't surprise me if we find out Youtube was also part of the con.

Dems had no plan to combat this, they thought they could just run normal campaigns on social media when it was really all about corrupting the people running social media to control how many people and which people get to see your and the opponent's ads. I still don't think people really grasp the power of it all. If one team's message is being seen by 50,000 random people and another is being seen by 50 million people, it's not a fair fight. And that's just 1 aspect of it, Trump's campqaign was likely given unfettered access to user data to use AI to tailor messaging. Dems brought a knife to a nuclear bomb fight. Musk was open about using X to throttle Biden's message and promote anti Biden content, that was 1/50th of what happened.

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i was convinced Kamala was going to win [View all] samsingh Jan 27 OP

I was shocked when Trump won. applegrove Jan 27 #1

Trump had a disastrous final two weeks or so Polybius Jan 27 #31

The elections change in nature every time. Social media applegrove Jan 27 #43

She did win it was rigged and stolen kimbutgar Jan 27 #2

Still waiting for Palast to prove even one of his claims. Wiz Imp Jan 27 #22

It will be in the same episode when he finds Bigfoot Bonx Jan 27 #37

Or the episode HowSpecialIsThis Jan 27 #54

He is right about voter suppression tulipsandroses Jan 27 #44

Yes, everyone knows that voter suppression is the primary election strategy for Republicans. Wiz Imp Jan 27 #45

Palast can't explain how a state like Michigan, with Dems controlling nearly all statewide offices and the legislature, MichMan Jan 27 #48

What would proof look like to you. Just wondering, KPN Jan 27 #49

Some examples Wiz Imp Jan 27 #58

You gotta drop you delusions at some point hueymahl Jan 27 #52

Me too Mad_Machine76 Jan 27 #3

Did the Republicans rig it The Wizard Jan 28 #76

I was shocked as well JBTaurus83 Jan 27 #4

When asked the question about what she would do different than Biden, she said "nothing" MichMan Jan 27 #33

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 28 #63

Throw him under the bus if that's what it takes to win Shrek Jan 28 #72

Agreed, but her loyalty to Biden was the reason most often given in explanation. MichMan Jan 28 #81

The American people drmeow Jan 27 #5

That played a big part, but I am not 100% convinced that there wasn't some skulldugery here, and there that threw it... electric_blue68 Jan 27 #10

Oh, there DEFINITLY drmeow Jan 27 #11

Absolutely THIS(!!!!!) as well! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 electric_blue68 Jan 27 #14

It is more than that PhilosopherKing Jan 27 #38

We lived in an idiocracy drmeow Jan 27 #41

sooner of later the truth will out stillcool Jan 27 #6

I believe on occasion some people Can be persuaded. electric_blue68 Jan 27 #17

thanks...indeed stillcool Jan 27 #21

One of the most startling to me (read on line) was a KKKer renouncing his beliefs. electric_blue68 Jan 27 #23

Ohhh, I certainly have my mins, and hours of that. Then I crawl out of it. electric_blue68 Jan 27 #24

thanks stillcool Jan 27 #25

Yw. We have to try, and hold each other up, as we can. electric_blue68 Jan 27 #27

YouGov poll came out last week womanofthehills Jan 27 #35

Not True Wiz Imp Jan 27 #42

A guy who orchestrated an insurrection to overthrow Emile Jan 27 #7

What I don't get.... Blue Owl Jan 27 #8

The one thing he cannot cheat himself out of... rasputin1952 Jan 28 #87

November 6th Mme. Defarge Jan 27 #9

I am convinced Kamala did win. Clouds Passing Jan 27 #12

Sadly, I think it just came down to inflation. Elessar Zappa Jan 27 #13

Yes and no misanthrope Jan 28 #60

Post removed Post removed Jan 28 #65

I'm not sure. WaPo did a blind study with voters showing both Harris and Trump policies in late October. Lonestarblue Jan 28 #84

... other factors such as racism, ant-immigrant sentiments, and misogyny. Mariana Jan 28 #88

We were sitting in a bubble. LisaL Jan 27 #15

When Biden dropped out DeepWinter Jan 27 #56

My feelings exactly. I think initially Biden had a better chance. LisaL Jan 28 #59

No, I think it was that moment in the debate when he couldn't answer Trump and he just blanked out... CTyankee Jan 28 #62

Most Americans have a very short attention span. LisaL Jan 28 #64

I know I just had a sick feeling at the time and so did members of my family, all very active Dems... CTyankee Jan 28 #66

"Something terribly wrong" mr715 Jan 28 #86

Have they ever explained what happened in the first Biden-Trump debate? samsingh Jan 28 #82

I would have bet on it volfan Jan 27 #16

Sexism, along with Racism played a Major Part! 🤬 electric_blue68 Jan 27 #18

I was positive women and young voters would carry Harris to victory Kaleva Jan 27 #19

There were "warning signs" but THE WAY FORWARD (DU sub forum) is the place to discuss them. WarGamer Jan 27 #20

Yeah, I felt the same way with Abram's situation with Kemp & Beto versus Cruz/Abbot SunImp Jan 27 #26

The problem is democrats need to follow the republican kacekwl Jan 27 #28

Doesn't that give you pause about the media/information you consume? RockRaven Jan 27 #29

Post removed Post removed Jan 27 #30

The final polls were close, and Nate Silver put it as a toss-up Polybius Jan 27 #32

I knew we had a disaster in the making when LisaL Jan 27 #34

It was the strangest bandwagon thing ever! LeftInTX Jan 28 #69

Everything i read on the sites I visit, the tv programs i watch, and the pundits i listen to said: "relax, she has this. MichMan Jan 27 #36

***WRONG MESSAGE*** Telling people who are spending 33% more on food and home insurance then ... uponit7771 Jan 27 #39

I wasn't convinced she was going to win. I was convinced we had a better chance that we didn't have with Joe Biden In It to Win It Jan 27 #40

I Was Not Convinced Baron2024 Jan 27 #46

I was optimistic enough to buy 4 different cat lady blue wave... 3catwoman3 Jan 27 #47

I know the feeling. I'm getting new shirts that say Don't blame me. I voted for Her tulipsandroses Jan 27 #55

If I were to be traveling outside the US, I would... 3catwoman3 Jan 28 #83

I knew it wasn't in the bag Skittles Jan 27 #50

In the US, misogyny is Bettie Jan 27 #51

We as a party are old Buzz cook Jan 27 #53

Republicans were confident they were going to win a year before the doc03 Jan 27 #57

Not me, I was sure she was not going to win. nt Raine Jan 28 #61

We were not totally shocked/ surprised Meowmee Jan 28 #67

Same here malaise Jan 28 #68

I thought she would win. I keep real busy with coordinated campaigns to elect Democrats up and down the ballot. LeftInTX Jan 28 #70

Like you, I just didn't want to picture Trump winning again. LisaL Jan 28 #73

I "couldn't picture it". I also "couldn't picture" Hillary winning. Intuition thing. LeftInTX Jan 28 #74

I was certain she was going to win PennRalphie Jan 28 #71

Kamala called Trump a fascist. LeftInTX Jan 28 #75

Musk Johnny2X2X Jan 28 #77

She was ahead 11% in Iowa Dumpy Jan 28 #78

you want to tax the rich. Conjuay Jan 28 #79

Simple. As always, he cheated. Erased our votes. And Dems rolled over. MaeScott Jan 28 #80

I had the feeling some time after her debate that the media started to ignore her... TrunKated Jan 28 #85

I was totally shocked and I can't believe there wasn't something funky going on in the background. Vinca Jan 28 #89

It was the most unusual election of my lifetime MichMan Jan 28 #90