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72. Lincoln

Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:19 PM

Jan 25

Defended his arrest and prosecution and conviction he even said that the “case requires, and the law and the Constitution sanction, this punishment.”

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Before we go overboard on "our democracy is gone" [View all] Southern_gent Jan 25 OP

Very well indeed....but which one of those gents were a convicted felon... MiHale Jan 25 #1

This! Dem4life1234 Jan 25 #12

Which one led an insurrection and tried to overthrow the government? Jit423 Jan 25 #80

We're supposed to get some consolation from that? choie Jan 25 #2

Exactly. Pardon ME, but I'm not B.See Jan 25 #75

Granted, the Civil War, the Great Depression, WWII, but I did not experience those things as I was not yet alive. surfered Jan 25 #3

Should we Southern_gent Jan 25 #61

Not at all. But my interpretation of the original post is that we survived all these terrible things surfered Jan 25 #65

Who said anything like that? n/t Lulu KC Jan 25 #78

That is outrageous Cirsium Jan 26 #120

And there are nothing like those things happening today (yet). Crunchy Frog Jan 26 #91

Those presidents did not have social media or biased and corrupt news outlets to contend with. nt in2herbs Jan 25 #4

WTF are you going on about? You are comparing those to what is happening today? LizBeth Jan 25 #5

Why can't we give a thumb's down or something to take away a Rec? n/t elocs Jan 25 #8

We use to. lol LizBeth Jan 25 #10

For about 5 minutes I think. Crunchy Frog Jan 26 #93

There used to be...a while back MiHale Jan 25 #19

I'd donate a lot to DU if there were a downvote button. Crunchy Frog Jan 26 #92

Really Southern_gent Jan 25 #15

So now you resort to this. I say something and you come back arguing something I never said LizBeth Jan 25 #21

it's a pattern Skittles Jan 25 #79

The thing is you didn't give enough information to explain the argument EdmondDantes_ Jan 26 #104

Just be your confused self. I also do not waste my time going one by one with rwers either. LizBeth Jan 26 #111

But, but, but Cirsium Jan 26 #121

THANK YOU Skittles Jan 25 #32

100% JCMach1 Jan 26 #107

Our democracy is gone for good this time. Here's why. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 25 #6

I agree with you. I hope we are both wrong. yellow dahlia Jan 25 #27

Unfortunately, I'm of the same opinion. It may be all lost by summer with... Bread and Circuses Jan 25 #30

Martial Law intelpug Jan 26 #88

That's a false equivalency between the two sides though. Crunchy Frog Jan 26 #95

Martial Law intelpug Jan 26 #128

I agree. What's happening right now is unprecedented in American history. Crunchy Frog Jan 26 #94

Ah, another post from a June, 2024 poster. Always enlightening. Bot I kid. NoRethugFriends Jan 25 #7

All of whose posts have been made in the last 90 days. Crunchy Frog Jan 26 #96

June, 2024 is the dead giveaway NoRethugFriends Jan 26 #97

Russians do you think? Crunchy Frog Jan 26 #100

there are enough bad actors around these days NoRethugFriends Jan 26 #105

ALL pre-nuke President's lame54 Jan 25 #9

And pre AI hyper-powered (and only getting worse and more powerful) social media and the internet in general. Celerity Jan 25 #47

Thank you TommyT139 Jan 26 #101

I envy you, sir. OldBaldy1701E Jan 25 #11

Its not hope Southern_gent Jan 25 #16

Except even with those atrocities and outrages choie Jan 25 #26

How do you know that? Southern_gent Jan 25 #83

By their actions and their writings. choie Jan 26 #106

"There is no sadder thing than a young pessimist except an old optimist." Mark Twain Ping Tung Jan 25 #13

Joined the board on the day Biden dropped out... Prairie Gates Jan 25 #14

So the amount Southern_gent Jan 25 #17

Post doesn't mention length of time at all Prairie Gates Jan 25 #20

just more poor reasoning Skittles Jan 25 #42

ELITE!!! Skittles Jan 25 #40

No Cirsium Jan 26 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 25 #18

The con artist is literally re-enacting this all in 2025 Quiet Em Jan 25 #22

Oh please. Lunabell Jan 25 #23

Because longevity Southern_gent Jan 25 #25

Not what I meant. Lunabell Jan 25 #48

What did you mean? nt Southern_gent Jan 25 #57

I don't need to say anything. Lunabell Jan 25 #59

I don't think any of those remotely close to rising to this level standingtall Jan 25 #24

So the civil war Southern_gent Jan 25 #31

None of those Presidents listed engaged in an insurrection standingtall Jan 25 #36

Idiotic Cirsium Jan 26 #125

American citizens (!) of Japanese descent were sent to the internment camps - that was far worse than deportation Midwestern Democrat Jan 25 #44

None were making billions on the office or stuffing cabinet with madmen delisen Jan 25 #28

Look at Andrew Jackson's Southern_gent Jan 25 #35

Yeah, well the orange crook is very fond of Andrew Jackson who was also a piece of shit. Dave Bowman Jan 25 #76

It's much different now. He entire media, corporations, senate ans house are controlled by MAGA Bread and Circuses Jan 25 #29

Really now? Southern_gent Jan 25 #37

LOL Skittles Jan 25 #33

No excuses Southern_gent Jan 25 #38

sure, bro Skittles Jan 25 #39

Im concerned but not surprised Southern_gent Jan 25 #49

yeah we are well aware of TROUBLES Skittles Jan 25 #68

What is an Prairie Gates Jan 25 #45

According to my job description Southern_gent Jan 25 #50

Oh, so it's like an adjunct or contingent faculty rank Prairie Gates Jan 25 #55

No Southern_gent Jan 25 #56

Why not? Prairie Gates Jan 25 #60

An adjunct Southern_gent Jan 25 #62

I'm asking you why you don't teach graduate courses Prairie Gates Jan 25 #66

You got the Lincoln slur wrong Cirsium Jan 25 #46

Im glad you brought that up. Southern_gent Jan 25 #63

Vallandigham? Cirsium Jan 25 #69

Lincoln Southern_gent Jan 25 #72

The man without a country Cirsium Jan 26 #99

Yes, you would think Cirsium Jan 26 #126

You're right! maxrandb Jan 25 #34

Oh, right Cirsium Jan 25 #41

Did any of them set things up edhopper Jan 25 #43

How about US Grant Southern_gent Jan 25 #53

We are talking about wholesale theft edhopper Jan 25 #67

Unbelievable Cirsium Jan 25 #70

What did I say that is Southern_gent Jan 25 #71

What argument? Cirsium Jan 26 #98

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Keep dancin" Cirsium Jan 26 #113

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Don't lecture me Cirsium Jan 26 #115

The asshole has left the building. Scrivener7 Jan 26 #118

The Confederate revisionism Cirsium Jan 26 #119

And he was full of it every time I saw him post. Scrivener7 Jan 26 #122

Oh, please Cirsium Jan 26 #127

. Scrivener7 Jan 25 #51

Well, it's not 1865, a lot has changed yaesu Jan 25 #52

Technology Southern_gent Jan 25 #54

That's for sure Cirsium Jan 26 #129

'Bleak' is not the term for what is happening now. elleng Jan 25 #58

I think the level of corruption and monied influence in this case is unprecedented. CentralMass Jan 25 #64

Add to that the fact the no previous President has ever entered the office FakeNoose Jan 25 #73

You may argue that. However, this time the very infrastructure, rules, and traditions, are being dismantled. sinkingfeeling Jan 25 #74

Really? Southern_gent Jan 25 #84

Really. sinkingfeeling Jan 25 #85

But not all of them, all at once, times 100, by one guy. defacto7 Jan 25 #77

For historical perspective, I turn to Heather Cox Richardson Lulu KC Jan 25 #81

Im sure her perspective is different Southern_gent Jan 25 #86

A "Lincoln Republican" n/t Lulu KC Jan 25 #87

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Yet, none of those mentioned rallied a mob to attempt to... LudwigPastorius Jan 25 #82

Don't know about others, but frankly B.See Jan 26 #89

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Agreed Cirsium Jan 26 #123

You're really comparing Lincoln and FDR to Trump? Crunchy Frog Jan 26 #90

Oh, "Nothing to see here!" huh? Think. Again. Jan 26 #102

This one is trying very hard. Bless his heart. Scrivener7 Jan 26 #112

Seriously...so just how bad does it have to get then?? Bengus81 Jan 26 #103

Out of time JustAnotherGen Jan 26 #116

Looks like the OP has left the building. He disrupted badly. Scrivener7 Jan 26 #117