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Oopsie Daisy

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132. "closeted republicans and are ashamed of their party" ... indeed.

Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:42 AM

Jan 17

Your observation regarding the tendency of many independents to be "closeted Republicans and ashamed of their party" is quite insightful. It is disheartening and exasperating for me to see that these so-called "independents" prioritize appearances over effecting real change and improving the party that better reflects their principles and values. They eschew labels and keep their distance for personal motives or to impress others, constructing a misleading narrative of fairness and thoughtfulness while paradoxically embracing all the fallacies of "bothsider" philosophies.

Some do this for personal financial gain as well. They are quick to claim party allegiance when it benefits them personally, only to reject it and feign independence when it serves their interests once more. They lack true commitment and withdraw to a safe distance when faced with challenges or when they are called to account for their votes and for the actions of the politicians they endorsed.

People like that are, well... let's just say I despise them all... and I'll leave it at that.

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A friend of mine who says his party affiliation is Independent [View all] William769 Jan 16 OP

I would have just donated the card to a local charity.There are better ways to make politcal points to friends. n/t FSogol Jan 16 #1

Good point. William769 Jan 16 #4

I understand Marthe48 Jan 16 #115

Thank you for that. William769 Jan 16 #116

I think our "friends" need to understand what we find acceptable and not acceptable... Trueblue Texan Jan 16 #127

What part of the county is this OP? ThePartyThatListens Jan 16 #2

Lee county Florida. William769 Jan 16 #3

A red state I see ThePartyThatListens Jan 16 #5

Blood red. William769 Jan 16 #6

Why did you choose to live there? in the stacks Jan 17 #134

Oh this is rich William769 Jan 17 #136

Thank you for answering my question. in the stacks Jan 17 #137

I hope you enjoyed the pizza you were served. William769 Jan 17 #139

What you did will certainly give your friend,... magicarpet Jan 16 #7

I know sometimes hindsight is better ...... Diamond_Dog Jan 16 #8

I'm curious what you do for shopping. Happy Hoosier Jan 16 #9

Depends on what I'm buying. William769 Jan 16 #10

Hey HH DENVERPOPS Jan 16 #52

Great Advice cjoki4 Jan 16 #74

I've done that and it works well...nt mitch96 Jan 17 #129

It used to be that Amazon had better prices than the manufacturers Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 17 #130

I buy local, when I can. We have a hardware store, so I try there first. But I sometimes just cannot find what I need In CTyankee Jan 17 #141

Sadly DENVERPOPS Jan 17 #142

we are also old and don't drive very far (I don't even drive at night). CTyankee Jan 17 #143

I hear you !!!!!!!!!!! DENVERPOPS Jan 17 #144

SMH CTyankee Jan 17 #145

I distract myself DENVERPOPS Jan 17 #146

I think DU people DeepWinter Jan 16 #11

I'd guess that most of the people I've worked with over the years are like that. Xavier Breath Jan 16 #63

Amazon bromeando Jan 16 #12

I need to buy a birthday gift... Cherrycheeks Jan 16 #17

A middle aged male. 🙃 rubbersole Jan 16 #31

Lol! Cherrycheeks Jan 16 #101

Thanks! Cherrycheeks Jan 16 #102

etsy hurl Jan 16 #68

a couple things from bath & body works, hand cream, hand soap, body soap for the shower, orleans Jan 16 #99

Thanks. I will check it out Cherrycheeks Jan 16 #103

or... dinner and a show, a novel throw pillow, a special order from hickory farms. lol. good luck! nt orleans Jan 16 #106

Thanks Cherrycheeks Jan 17 #140

This company mercuryblues Jan 17 #138

I didn't know that there was an Independent Party. Squaredeal Jan 16 #13

There's an Independent Party in Florida, where this took place. CaptainTruth Jan 16 #18

Maybe you have heard of Senator Bernie Sanders who is independent and caucuses with Democrats. Maggiemayhem Jan 16 #75

William.........the person gave you $100.00 for Christmas and instead of saying thank you and disposing of it in a Srkdqltr Jan 16 #14

I cannot undo what I did. William769 Jan 16 #16

Yes, you can. ancianita Jan 16 #48

You could--next time--come to DU and ask for suggestions what to do mnhtnbb Jan 17 #135

Sorry, but in today's 'Murika maxrandb Jan 16 #20

Thank you for that. William769 Jan 16 #23

This is ridiculous Mountainguy Jan 16 #87

Tell me where Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg and Donnie Dipshit "don't" fit in the below definition? maxrandb Jan 16 #89

They fit none of that. Littlered Jan 16 #109

Equating the receipt of a gift card with the Holocaust is an interesting perspective. egduj Jan 16 #91

I'm not promising a "new" Holocaust maxrandb Jan 16 #93

I'm not saying giving back the card will NOT stop another Holocaust... egduj Jan 16 #94

It takes more than one card maxrandb Jan 16 #100

Wow AKwannabe Jan 16 #38

i agree andy_smalls Jan 16 #97

What's "stupid" is using political afiliation to hurt innocent people maxrandb Jan 16 #15

Don't know who he voted for. William769 Jan 16 #19

Many people will do that and it's probably not a bad idea. BannonsLiver Jan 16 #25

I just figured out I'm on your naughty list. William769 Jan 16 #28

Standing on principal matters. nt Prairie_Seagull Jan 16 #36

You're just as moldy as the rest of us/humanity. rubbersole Jan 16 #40

Best answer in the thread. Scrivener7 Jan 16 #90

I have not ordered anything from Amazon since the election kimbutgar Jan 16 #21

Amazon has created a real problem for all of us. They've managed to run small, local stores out of Vinca Jan 16 #22

Support Small Business RetiredRNIowa Jan 16 #24

How many of those mom and pops Mountainguy Jan 16 #85

Good for you Bill, we need to educate stupid voters KS Toronado Jan 16 #26

Thank you, I needed that just about now William769 Jan 16 #29

It's already paid for so you should either use it JI7 Jan 16 #27

I was given an Amazon gift card too. LisaM Jan 16 #30

The money had already been spent, not by you, and Amazon will most probably not return the money. Escurumbele Jan 16 #32

Your thought is greatly appreciated. Thank you. William769 Jan 16 #34

And people wonder why I just ask for plain money for my birthday or holidays sakabatou Jan 16 #33

Principles count AKwannabe Jan 16 #35

Thank you. William769 Jan 16 #37

Principles that divide friendships or parties or countries or other humans are not principles. ancianita Jan 16 #61

that seems like a ridiculous statement to me NoRethugFriends Jan 16 #82

Division is ridiculous, imo. In the "United" States of America. ancianita Jan 16 #96

A person also has principles AKwannabe Jan 16 #98

Strongly disagree. NoRethugFriends Jan 16 #123

What is your beef with Andy Jazzy? Jazzy is the CEO of Amazon and has been for years. nt kelly1mm Jan 16 #39

Truth be known, it's Alex Dunlap now. Emile Jan 16 #42

Certainly seem like he is being groomed for the position but it is as of yet, not official. Still Jazzy for now. kelly1mm Jan 16 #47

99% of independent callers to CSpan are Republicans. Emile Jan 16 #41

Amazon was good during Covid. Silent Type Jan 16 #43

You could give it to a left-leaning charity. louis-t Jan 16 #44

I respect you for that, Bill. brer cat Jan 16 #45

Thank you my friend. William769 Jan 16 #76

You do know lots of small companies use Amazon Historic NY Jan 16 #46

Which makes them part of "the industrial complex". William769 Jan 16 #53

Yeah, Ive yet to meet an "independent" Cosmocat Jan 16 #49

I've often wondered over the years if it's effective TBF Jan 16 #50

I value your opinion & thank you. William769 Jan 16 #55

But your plumber is very different from Amazon. Scrivener7 Jan 17 #131

I admire and appreciate your discipline. Unfortunately, Ilsa Jan 16 #51

I understand & respect that of you. William769 Jan 16 #56

Pretty much anyone who has a mutual fund in their IRA has AMZN. Gore1FL Jan 16 #54

Seems like needless drama and a shitty thing to do to a supposed friend. thebigidea Jan 16 #57

Yet I did it and after reading many post here including yours William769 Jan 16 #62

For the past 4 years Republicans have run campaigns on banning companies Owens Jan 16 #58

I understand your stance, but... LudwigPastorius Jan 16 #59

Exactly why claudette Jan 16 #60

I just hope those of you who won't shop Amazon PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 16 #64

Isn't it exhausting? PennRalphie Jan 16 #65

After the past several years with companies targeting me just because I'm a Gay man William769 Jan 16 #71

That's a different story PennRalphie Jan 16 #88

Spoiler alert: They don't target gay men BannonsLiver Jan 16 #108

... William769 Jan 16 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 16 #119

Not referring to Amazon William769 Jan 16 #117

So you know the political affiliation PennRalphie Jan 16 #120

I'm not going to parse with you. William769 Jan 16 #124

No ulterior motive. PennRalphie Jan 16 #125

Gift cards are a bad gift Envirogal Jan 16 #66

A lot of people nowforever Jan 16 #67

If this ever happens again, donate to a local DV shelter or pet rescue obamanut2012 Jan 16 #69

I agree with your assessment of "independents"... Wounded Bear Jan 16 #70

Honestly I would have given the gift certificate to a needy person dsc Jan 16 #72

being a member of Florida's Independent Party is completely different from being an independent Native Jan 16 #73

I may have worded it better. He says he's an Independent. William769 Jan 16 #77

In that case, he's likely not affiliated with our Independent Party here in Florida. Native Jan 16 #84

I've done the same for walmart cards... Bluethroughu Jan 16 #78

Unfortunately we no longer have the luxury... Think. Again. Jan 16 #79

Yea. I disagree with Andy Jassy as well. (CEO of amazon) fescuerescue Jan 16 #80

Where I work I receive many gift cards peacebuzzard Jan 16 #81

Well done Nigrum Cattus Jan 16 #83

Yes BannonsLiver Jan 16 #95

Something to Ponder RecoveringJournalist Jan 16 #86

I would have... Mike Nelson Jan 16 #92

My feeling about receiving an amazon gift card soldierant Jan 16 #104

Once the card is purchased then Amazon has their money townie Jan 16 #105

The purchase was already made; Bezos was already paid. patphil Jan 16 #107

Yes, my Republican people changed to Libertarian or Independent with the stupidity of Trump LizBeth Jan 16 #110

The "it doesn't really matter attitude" doesn't sit right with me, either. calimary Jan 16 #111

Anything that pisses off a Libertarian or an "Independent" is a pure good Orrex Jan 16 #112

Apologies if I offend Roy Rolling Jan 16 #113

I think you're probably right about most "Independents" PatSeg Jan 16 #114

What does your friend's independent status have to do with anything here? Bristlecone Jan 16 #121

I thought Bezos DownriverDem Jan 16 #122

It's not about putting Amazon out of business . . . SarcasticSatyr Jan 16 #126

Not all independents are "closet Republicans" FakeNoose Jan 16 #128

"closeted republicans and are ashamed of their party" ... indeed. Oopsie Daisy Jan 17 #132

Boycotting Amazon is great if you want to, but they don't make their money from selling stuff. sir pball Jan 17 #133