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'A form of magical thinking:' Haberman and Swan on Trump's Iran war strategy - The Last Word - MS NOW
The New York Times’ Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan join MS NOW’s Lawrence O’Donnell for their first television interview for their new book, “Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump.”
When one aide is quoted in their book as saying Trump’s plan for the U.S. to take over the Gaza Strip is “legitimately nutso,” Haberman says that despite that “this is a group of people who genuinely want to see” Trump succeed. - Aired on 06/22/2026.
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