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LetMyPeopleVote

(174,788 posts)
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 11:00 AM Dec 19

'Did she understand?' Nicolle Wallace floored as Trump aide exposes herself to a subpoena

Last edited Fri Dec 19, 2025, 04:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Deadline White House had a great segment on how these comments will be use in any trial of Tish James or James Comey

President Donald Trump's chief of staff Susie Wiles did more than embarrass the White House with her broad-ranging Vanity Fair interview, MS NOW's Nicolle Wallace argued to the reporter who broke the story, Chris Whipple, on Thursday.

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2025-12-19T05:00:06Z

https://www.rawstory.com/susie-wiles-2674712581/

President Donald Trump's chief of staff Susie Wiles did more than embarrass the White House with her broad-ranging Vanity Fair interview, MS NOW's Nicolle Wallace argued to the reporter who broke the story, Chris Whipple, on Thursday. In fact, she exposed herself to subpoenas from the people Trump ordered indicted by the Justice Department, as they pursue vindictive prosecution complaints.

"What did she — what was the spirit of the conversation when she describes Donald Trump's personality as a, quote, 'alcoholic's personality'?" asked Wallace.

"What's amazing about the whole thing, Nicolle, is that she was it was just a matter of fact," said Whipple. "And she was matter of fact when she described the the fact that there was still a revenge and retribution campaign going full tilt. She was matter of fact when she talked about how [New York Attorney General] Letitia James was part of that retribution tour, which is practically a get-out-of-jail-free card for her attorneys. That was what was so remarkable. And I think I think part of it is that it's not that there's a bubble mentality in the Trump White House, a bunker mentality. It's really kind of a bubble. And I think at a certain point when you're surrounded by like-minded acolytes that you, you forget that what you're saying is sometimes crazy."....

"I mean, did she understand that by acknowledging the retribution and revenge and acknowledging that the Justice Department was being used in that way, that she could be subpoenaed as a witness in a vindictive prosecution?
" asked Wallace.

"I have no idea," said Whipple — but, he added, "She certainly wasn't reluctant to talk about it."


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'Did she understand?' Nicolle Wallace floored as Trump aide exposes herself to a subpoena (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Dec 19 OP
True Believers replace perspective with subconscious invincibility bucolic_frolic Dec 19 #1
Goddam! I'm writing that down. Iggo Dec 19 #2
Like their convicted-but-never-punished felonious cult leader... Justice matters. Dec 19 #3
Unfortunately, so far they are correct orangecrush Dec 19 #7
Even so, what logic is there? Is she really just plain stupid? Bluetus Dec 19 #10
I've seen some speculation that she has had enough and wants out. mwmisses4289 Dec 19 #11
Evidently that is the only way to get any loyalty in return from Trump Bluetus Dec 19 #14
Probably as good as any other speculation/rumor/explanation out there. mwmisses4289 Dec 19 #15
She took off her clothes in front of a subpoena? Wonder Why Dec 19 #4
Of course... czarjak Dec 19 #5
Either way, the truth was told. Joinfortmill Dec 19 #6
I think popsdenver Dec 19 #8
What difference does it make? quakerboy Dec 19 #9
Trump's Top Aide Admits 'Score Settling' Driving DOJ's Political Prosecutions LetMyPeopleVote Dec 19 #12
She Was Sent The Conductor Dec 19 #13

bucolic_frolic

(53,991 posts)
1. True Believers replace perspective with subconscious invincibility
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 11:16 AM
Dec 19

They really don't believe the law will ever matter again.

Justice matters.

(9,357 posts)
3. Like their convicted-but-never-punished felonious cult leader...
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 11:58 AM
Dec 19

They are absolutely sure the Laws don't apply to them.

Bluetus

(2,279 posts)
10. Even so, what logic is there? Is she really just plain stupid?
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:21 PM
Dec 19

I don't know the woman's background. Most moves by this gang make sense at some level. I can't make any sense out of this one. It was clearly very deliberate -- a whole series of interviews. She clearly intended to attack many in Trump's circle. Did she think she was protecting Trump? But she attacked him too.

One way to explore this is to ask whom she did NOT attack. Offhand, it looks like she attacked EVERYBODY.
So why is she still in her job?

Even if it was supposed to be a distraction, it seems like a very bad idea. What did anybody expect to accomplish with this? Who sent her on this mission?

mwmisses4289

(3,203 posts)
11. I've seen some speculation that she has had enough and wants out.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:36 PM
Dec 19

What better way than to insult trump and his cabal and then "resign"?

Bluetus

(2,279 posts)
14. Evidently that is the only way to get any loyalty in return from Trump
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 07:34 PM
Dec 19

One would have thought that he would fire her immediately.

Here is my psychobabble explanation. I don't even believe it myself, but here goes.

A) Trump has always had trouble with women. Probably dates back to early family problems.

B) Trump fears strong women. Hillary, Michelle, Kamala.

C) Trump knows his mind is slipping away. Trump is now drawn to Wiles as the mother he never had. Trump is afraid of dying alone and hated.

D) Trump knows at some level that everyone around him has always hated him (including his family and especially his wife). But that was OK because they all feared him. But now, the tiny fraction of his brain that is still functional realizes that nobody fears him anymore, and they are all jockeying to dance on his grave and take over when he is gone. The only person he trusts is Wiles. And he is calmed, seeing her attack practically everybody around him.

In other words, she is that safety blankie that he needs so badly now.

mwmisses4289

(3,203 posts)
15. Probably as good as any other speculation/rumor/explanation out there.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 08:08 PM
Dec 19

It's probably closer to the mark than a good many that are out there.

popsdenver

(1,527 posts)
8. I think
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:03 PM
Dec 19

I think that we need to quit saying Trump this or Trump that per se, when in reality, he wouldn't have lasted a day in his 2016 period if the Republican Senate, Republican House, and Republican members of the USSC hadn't been all in on him from day one.
Fifty years ago, with the Old Guard Republicans, he would have been impeached Jan 21, 2016 in the morning by the House, and voted out that same afternoon by the Senate.......There are hundreds of thousands veterans that are rolling over in their graves with what is currently going on.....and the hijacking of the "Democracy" that they fought and died to preserve.....

If we keep saying Trump, then the Repubs can recover when he is finally trashed, and the Republican Party can pretend it was all Trump, and not them......and continue on in Trump's footsteps with their new Quasi MAGAots, headed by the likes of Stephen Miller and Russell Vought, along with the 2025 Doctrine they all have been following........

quakerboy

(14,708 posts)
9. What difference does it make?
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:14 PM
Dec 19

Grand jurys have no interest in those cases anyway. And Trump isnt going to let a little matter like not having any case or crime stop him from persecuting those he dislikes.

So what difference does it make?

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,788 posts)
12. Trump's Top Aide Admits 'Score Settling' Driving DOJ's Political Prosecutions
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 04:04 PM
Dec 19

If the cases against Comey, Tish James and others ever reach trial, Susie Wiles will be a witness for the defense or at least will be deposed. The taped interviews Wile gave to the reporter will be used in those cases.

Trump’s Top Aide Admits ‘Score Settling’ Driving DOJ’s Political Prosecutions
www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/...

Nancy Thompson (@thmpsnnancy.bsky.social) 2025-12-17T00:15:39.777Z

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/susie-wiles-score-settling-behind-trump-doj-political-prosecution/

A top White House official and key figure in President Donald Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign has acknowledged that “score settling” lies behind many of the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) criminal prosecutions against Trump’s political enemies.

In interviews with Vanity Fair, White House chief of staff Susie Wiles admitted that some cases may “look like retribution” and implied that Trump is directing the department to take certain actions against his enemies should an opportunity present itself.

“I don’t think he wakes up thinking about retribution,” she said. “But when there’s an opportunity, he will go for it.”

That contradicts the administration’s official narrative of the prosecutions. In public, Trump has maintained that he knows very little about the department’s cases against his enemies. Senior DOJ officials have also claimed their prosecutions are driven by the rule of law and not the whims of the president.

The stunning admission from Wiles, the chief architect of Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign, comes shortly after a federal judge dismissed the department’s cases against New York Attorney General Letitia James and former FBI Director James Comey — two of Trump’s leading foes......

Wiles acknowledged that the DOJ’s political prosecution of James Comey also looked like retribution and couldn’t offer any pushback on that view.

“I mean, people could think it does look vindictive,” she said. “I can’t tell you why you shouldn’t think that.”

The Conductor

(195 posts)
13. She Was Sent
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 05:43 PM
Dec 19

Dame Susie was sent out as a distraction. She would not fart without permission from the orange goon.

Recall that the source of the sudden leak of the "Access Hollywood" tape was unknown. Speculation was that Trump did it himself, desperate for a distraction from even worse stories. Now he is desperate again. It always happens... The biggest provocateurs find they have to go bigger and bigger. What's next? Set himself on fire?

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