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Rhiannon12866

(225,879 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:40 AM Oct 2024

'For him to use it was blasphemous': Rufus Wainwright on Trump playing 'Hallelujah' at town hall - The 11th Hour - MSNBC



Singer-songwriter Rufus Wainwright says he was "mortified" when Trump played his 'Hallelujah' cover, adding it was the "height of blasphemy." He joins Stephanie Ruhle to discuss. - Aired on 10/15/2024.
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'For him to use it was blasphemous': Rufus Wainwright on Trump playing 'Hallelujah' at town hall - The 11th Hour - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Oct 2024 OP
That toxic turd has no respect for anyone or anything, even himself. Dave Bowman Oct 2024 #1
Everything is about him, no one else - wants, needs or feelings - resonates with him at all Rhiannon12866 Oct 2024 #2
Off topic, but can't we get the world to understand "Hallelujah" is about hot sex, not chuchgoing? emulatorloo Oct 2024 #3
Not necessarily. no_hypocrisy Oct 2024 #4
2. In other words the woman in the song gives the man a really strong devastating orgasm emulatorloo Oct 2024 #5
Not necessarily. no_hypocrisy Oct 2024 #6
Or came really really hard using 'religious' metaphorical language. Thst's the genius of Leonard Cohen. emulatorloo Oct 2024 #7
We have common ground. no_hypocrisy Oct 2024 #8
So many beautiful interpretations emulatorloo Oct 2024 #10
One more no_hypocrisy Oct 2024 #11
That's the double entendre genius of Cohen's writing about passion. Both interpretations are applicable Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #9

Rhiannon12866

(225,879 posts)
2. Everything is about him, no one else - wants, needs or feelings - resonates with him at all
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 03:03 AM
Oct 2024

And there are those who would vote for him to lead the country??

emulatorloo

(45,654 posts)
3. Off topic, but can't we get the world to understand "Hallelujah" is about hot sex, not chuchgoing?
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 04:49 AM
Oct 2024
Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

no_hypocrisy

(49,505 posts)
4. Not necessarily.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:07 AM
Oct 2024

Biblical references:

1. David (Old Testament) was corrupted by viewing Bathsheba bathing on a roof. He sent her General Husband into battle, knowing he'd be killed. Then he could marry Bathsheba free and clear. David went on to be King of Israel due to his faith.

2. Delilah (Old Testament) eliciting from Samson the secret of his strength. She made him trust her enough to lay down on her lap and sleep. And she cut his hair, rendering him weak and helpless. And he kept his faith notwithstanding.

emulatorloo

(45,654 posts)
5. 2. In other words the woman in the song gives the man a really strong devastating orgasm
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:08 AM
Oct 2024

So intense that he screams out Hallelujah.

Cohen was a genius and sure knew how to write songs about passion.



no_hypocrisy

(49,505 posts)
6. Not necessarily.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:14 AM
Oct 2024

The lyrics could be interpreted as a man who has faced incalculable challenges and corruption still turns to his faith in order to be cleansed.

You have your interpretation and I have another.

emulatorloo

(45,654 posts)
7. Or came really really hard using 'religious' metaphorical language. Thst's the genius of Leonard Cohen.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:17 AM
Oct 2024

Brilliant song.

On edit: it can most definitely be both yours and my interpretation at the very same time. He’s such an amazing poet!

On that we both probably agree.

emulatorloo

(45,654 posts)
10. So many beautiful interpretations
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:18 AM
Oct 2024


Probably my favorite interpretation:



Probably my wife’s favorite, it is so lovely too



Bernardo de La Paz

(51,822 posts)
9. That's the double entendre genius of Cohen's writing about passion. Both interpretations are applicable
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:35 AM
Oct 2024

Regardless, if you listen carefully to music -- especially lyrics from the 20s and the 50s through 70s and more -- it is replete with double entendres. From so-called "race records" (early recorded black music) through Led Zeppelin and more. It's fun to listen for them, or recognize them, even if sometimes the double is only in your imagination!
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