back them up except some tired retread catch phrases. And we are tired of hearing them.

There is anger on the topic. Anger and hurt coming from all genders. What were the posters' hurtful experiences that led them to the positions they now hold?

And while I can understand that many people are hurting and lashing out because gender roles have become too complex for their understanding, I don't need to accept their lashing out. They are being abusive, and no one is required to accept abuse, regardless of how good a reason the abuser has for their actions. It doesn't matter their reasons, what matters is their behavior. If they cannot behave properly, and this website does not implement proper procedures that will curb this abuse, then I will no longer support or frequent this website. I have a question in ATA right now that will determine my way forward. We will see what Skinner says, if he decides to answer, if not, it will be an answer in itself, I guess.

As a Black man, I know how it feels to have my humanity dismissed. I would wish that on no one, so I stand with anyone that the status quo marginalizes.

Nor does one need to be hurt to detect unfairness.

If I seem angry in a post it is because someone is playing stupid games in discussions of serious issues, or because someone has spent years mocking, minimizing, or otherwise dismissing feminist issues that they personally don't care about.

Your post comes a little too close to "Who hurt you?" for my tastes.

And we have a right to ask it to stop - not matter the reasons behind the abusive behavior.

And asking who hurt them, is such a short step away from excusing their behavior. Women, as you said, are raised to believe that they should accept and placate abusive behavior rather than stand up for themselves. Well, to hell with that, I say.

How many years are spent conditioning girls and women to believe that their feelings about porn, strippers, etc are wrong and invalid?

question the culture that promotes the sexual objectification women so far as to create entire multi-billion dollar industries out of it we are told that we are anti-women. That we are "slut-shamers".

When in fact is 100% opposite - we actually care about the women (primarily) themselves, we want them to have other opportunities.