Anybody who's taken an outfit to try on when it's looked really super on a store mannequin knows the problem well, that what looks good on some ideal is not going to look very good on the real thing.

If the clothing industry doesn't wake up soon, they're going to start losing money hand over fist as women over 25 just give up on fashion completely.

Simply Stunning!

Thank you for sharing this. I may have to spend some money at Title Nine.

I just made a catalog request.

Duluth Trading is a little better, with some items 18-24.

http://women.duluthtrading.com/store/womens/womens-pants/womens-work-pants/60750.aspx

but at least they are moving in right direction...

Beautiful, real, women.

and treated like freaking human beings. It's another thing that goes unanswered year after year. Body sculpting type Photoshopping should have to come with a label.

** Since when don't we get a red message that we've edited the post?

???

on edit: seeing for myself.

guarantees women the right to compete and participate in sports. Look it up.

Why, pray tell, do you think I said it was "appropriately named?" A company celebrating the equality of women as REAL women engaging in sports?

Sorry, but I can not believe that you felt the need to point that out.

On edit, seems several didn't know that so it is good you brought it up... Mea culpa

I didn't know it.

I saw title nine in the post and mentally linked it to something about sports, and somehow converted it into something about golf. (titlest golf balls? I don't know.) I didn't look at the link, I just assumed it was a catalog for women golfers.

Then I read the post about stunts, and was trying to envision what golf stunts would look like.

The things that are now taken for granted as a right, we did not have then. We fought for it. Every time I see Phyllis Schafly I want to hurl since she fought so hard against everything that benefited females and then used those benefits for her own self gain.

today.

I have to really take a deep breath when I see young women either taking for granted, or worse, denigrating those whose fights preceded them and to which they should owe a great debt. I can only hope our younger women are aware of the risks if they do not pick up the baton.

Hang around DU and you'll find out about the women that broke all the "rules" - my generation.

Thanks for the tip about it.

Always appreciated their respect and realism when it came to sportswear - and women.

Thank you

but - I think I'm missing something.

I looked but everyone still seems super slim. Granted they're selling "sports wear", but I know some very athletic and "sporty" women who aren't even close to looking like that.

Did I just miss those models? I very well could have, if so, please point me in the right direction. Like I said - their statement is wonderful, but I'm trying to figure out if it goes far enough?

But their emphasis on "real", non-photo-shopped, non-anorexic is surely a start...

Don't get me wrong - it's a great idea. I just think maybe they should include some women a little larger.

So anyone even a little larger than me is out of luck.

Agree that it's a start, but it would be nice if the clothing manufacturers were a little more in tune with real women's sizes. Our culutre has this tendency to think that larger women are not fit. I dare say that when I was 40 pounds overweight & exercising everyday, I was more fit than I am now, getting out to walk only 2 days a week, if that.

Love those tankini's! With the boy shorts, that's better than a one-piece.

Women over a certain age do not want low riders that show off their belly or tops that are skin tight and don't reach their waist. Even skirts and dresses are geared for young people. Finding clothes has become an headache instead of a treat. And why don't they make petite clothes that actually fit short women or even sweats that do not need 4 inches cut off the bottom? Short women do not have 5' long legs. They have short legs that go with their short stature.

(specifically ski pants for downhill and cross-country skiing/snowboarding) at REI. Given I have spent up to $100 to have this type of clothing professionally altered, complete with re-sealing Gore-tex liners, I am thrilled.

But, it has been a damn long time coming and more is needed, I completely agree. We have to keep pushing.

a finished product and then have to cut and hem it or shorten the waist in a dress as well when it is is supposed to be petite.

objectification.

In social philosophy, objectification means treating a person as a thing, without regard to their dignity.

According to the philosopher Martha Nussbaum, a person is objectified if they are treated:[1]

as a tool for another's purposes (instrumentality);
as if lacking in agency or self-determination (denial of autonomy, inertness);
as if owned by another (ownership);
as if interchangeable (fungibility);
as if permissible to damage or destroy (violability);
as if there is no need for concern for their feelings and experiences (denial of subjectivity).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectification

Either way, a big FAIL to this post.

under capitalism.

taken from Marx.

http://www2.law.columbia.edu/faculty_franke/Certification%20Readings/catherine-mackinnon-feminism-marxism-method-and-the-state-an-agenda-for-theory1.pdf

evacuating that background pretty much ensures that people will conceive of "objectification" as equal to "admiring/desiring the sexual attributes of a person," as one poster here already said they did.



IOW, omitting that background will lead to stupid clusterfuck threads like this one, essentially about nothing.

Any progress in this department is good, IMHO.