History of Feminism
Related: About this forumI thought I'd re-post this here ...
Just an observation:
One can refuse to accept the accuser's claims as fact without defending Allen.
It's not about him. To fail to accept the accusations as truth is not defending him.
It's not about her. To fail to accept the accusations as truth is not to claim she's lying.
Or consider another's take:
Everyone is free to think Allen is guilty or not. The Constitution of the United States gives Allen the right to be tried in front of a jury of his peers. It is exactly because of emotional cases like this that we have our right to a trial by jury.
This is not to call out these DUers (as their comments are fairly representative of a segment of DU); but rather to note the difference in treatment of alleged sex offenders, where they are given the benefit of the doubt, compared to the banksters, where apparently we just skip the alleged part.
Or further, the treatment of the alleged victims of the abuse, who are to be disbelieved, or at a minimum, closely observed in case they are making a false, or unprovable, claim. This places the victim of one unproved crime on the same footing as the perpetrator of another unproved crime.
Just my observation.
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JustAnotherGen
(34,250 posts)Will give you a kick and rec back here. That's a fair observation. And I would like to know what is soooooo special about this "delicate flower" Allen . . .
Warpy
(113,131 posts)The open letter itself was pretty confused. Had she been confusing Allen with her birth father or was the "daddy" the same man all the way through--Allen.
I honestly don't know what to think, the courts would be invaluable in sorting this out but the ridiculously short statute of limitations on child rape might have run out.
I'm not an Allen fan and I know how devastating child rape is. I just find the whole thing a little muddled so I'm reserving judgment.
But it still galls me how quick people are to disbelieve victims of sexual abuse.
Warpy
(113,131 posts)I'm just confused over whether the victim is conflating two men together, only one of whom was the actual abuser.
The letter was oddly written, to say the least.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)they did Polanski's. I haven't "taken a side" in either case myself - other than feeling awful for the victims - but this insistence on denying the likelihood of guilt, doesn't seem to happen with any other type of crime.