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Particularly after dealing with a few people who are driven to do whatever they can to make sure feminists stay in their place and never under any circumstances challenge their inalienable right to degrade and insult at will. One even told me that the poll I posted asking if sexist insults were okay on DU was illiberal. Apparently liberalism means men can insult women in any way they please and if we dare to object, we are authoritarian. The idea that this version of liberalism espoused by a few reactionaries guarantees unfettered rights for men and denies women the right to voice concerns is a strange one. It brings to mind the schism in the abolitionist movement of the 1840s that broke apart over men's refusing to allow women to speak at meetings and women's refusing to be kept silent. It's also eerily similar to far right wing ideas of gender relations. The only difference seems to be they like abortion because they like being free of the consequences of childbirth. Of course even right wingers who ostensibly oppose abortion have no qualms about forcing a woman to have one when they find a child inconvenient, whereas here some argue that if a woman refuses to abort the fetus, he shouldn't have to pay child support. Tell me how that isn't isn't reactionary?

but that doesn't mean it's justified toward me, and I will not accept it.