History of Feminism
Related: About this forumYou know feminism is not "the opposite" of MRA's
Or Men's groups. There is a false dichotomy here and it's this; in order to have relevance, those with no clear agenda, nothing but just strong emotion--usually anger--need an "other" to define themselves.
Feminists fought injustice, for decades we have fought it. We fight for reproductive rights. We fight to own our sexuality, we're beginning to pull ourselves out of the white, cis, hetero trap-- a trap that can only lead to more injustice. We MUST not get trapped into it and embracing intersectionallity IMO, is the best way--at least it's my way.
I'm not saying toxic males and their groupies aren't harmful-- they cause incredible, perhaps irreversible damage-- but the feminisms I'm familiar are more about action and activism and truth, Not ridiculous blogs and conspiracy discussion boards--and although blogs and discussion boards exist in abundance with feminisms-- and yes a few are whacked out--there is actual activism to attach to it. In other words, we get out there and do shit.
A feminist activist is always threatened with something violent, not nessisarily at DU, where no matter how we might not like the system, that shit doesn't fly, (unless it's coded very carefully and passes a jury) and it doesn't matter what "kind" of feminist you are; from Feman to Eco-feminists, you speak up, you will be threatened with violence. Period. Always.
People have short attention spans. We always have weeks of one topic or the other, with thread after thread after thread, just as we have recently with gender, but you see DU is not a fraction of who I am or what I do.
But there's just something about feminists and feminist topics isn't there? Something threatening or tiresome or perhaps even irrelevant to detractors. And if you find that strange on a progressive discussion board, well that's because it is.
I have a difficult time describing how repulsive it is to me personally be considered an "opposite" in order to give a discordant and dishonest set of vague ideas substance.
There now, I just wanted it get that out. I'm going back to reading Hellblazer--NOT a feminist comic book although it has it's moments, but I'm rereading the entire series, because I have it first of all, but mostly because I always love the anti-hero's like John Constantine. Like Seabeyond.
Because nobodies perfect, as they say.
cinnabonbon
(860 posts)Finally, someone said it!
And Hellblazer brings me back. My gosh. I used to live on comic books growing up. (though I liked Sandman and Elfquest better)
ismnotwasm
(42,510 posts)How, I don't have any idea-- sounds like futility to me-- but I just reread that one too. Then I'm going to reread Preacher. Haven't read Elfquest-- but it sound interesting
cinnabonbon
(860 posts)considering the time it was made. And the art style is so gorgeous.
I didn't know Sandman might be a movie! Exciting. Hellblazer was cool and I do own most of it, but I have to admit I never got to read Preacher. I got the impression that was darker than Hellblazer. Is it?
ismnotwasm
(42,510 posts)Preacher is pissed off at God and goes and a quest to ask him some question, with his girlfriend ans a drunken Irish Vampire.
cinnabonbon
(860 posts)In that case I might have to take a look at it.
redqueen
(115,177 posts)I completely forgot about those books!
I read those around the same time I was reading the Hitchhiker's Guide series, and for some reason I remembered everything about one, and nothing about the other. Holy crap... holy crap... thank you so much for reminding me!
cinnabonbon
(860 posts)Strong female characters everywhere. It definitely passes the Bechdel test. And they were pretty equal in their relationships, too, which always stuck with me when I read it.
I'm all excited that someone else remembers them. I hope you find some of your old ones! But if you don't , I think the Pinis digitally colored everything and put it online. Be warned though, her digital coloring skills aren't as mindblowing as her watercolors were.
The Hithchiker's guide to the galaxy was also amazing. Aww. It's been a while since I've read it, now.
redqueen
(115,177 posts)Thank you so, so, so much for reminding me. I am smh that I could have forgotten them... what the hell.
Thank you!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and i really do not think it gets enough attention or is as prominate as it should be.
but honestly, in the fem movement, i think this is ONE of the top priorities, for all of us. so glad to see you included, and of course you would.
thank you for this post
boston bean
(36,620 posts)with feminism.
My thoughts exactly. Thanks for posting.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Searched it and went into Urban Dictionary. Some real classic comments there .
Squinch
(53,689 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)So if they're "opposites" in any sense then that's it.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)xulamaude
(847 posts)that equates feminism with the MR 'movement'.
Ridiculous.