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bobnicewander

(964 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 12:34 AM Jan 21

Melania on March 4

From astro.com:

&quot Novo Mesto - Although the media tends to state that the first lady of the United States Melania Trump was born in Sevnica, this information is not true. Melania Trump was born Melania Knavs to mom Amalia in the maternity hospital in Novo Mesto, as reported on 7 May 1970 by Dolenjski List, in the section from the maternity hospitals of births in our region, reported decades ago)."

Doing a noon chart using that information yields Pluto at 25°06' Virgo.

A chart for March 4th, 2025, at 5 pm at the White House has transiting Saturn (21°10' Pisces) and Neptune (29°02' Pisces) midpoint at 25°06' Pisces in exact opposition to her natal Pluto. Aspect is in agreement with those going on in her husband's chart that day.

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Melania on March 4 (Original Post) bobnicewander Jan 21 OP
I don't understand. Why is this date significant? Ilsa Jan 21 #1
It means that whatever is happening NJCher Jan 21 #2
Thank you bobnicewander Jan 21 #5
Thank you, Bob! SheltieLover Jan 21 #6
yes, should have mentioned that NJCher Jan 21 #8
Ty, NJCher! SheltieLover Jan 21 #7
K&R!!! This is fascinating... Ilsa Jan 21 #9
Thanks Bob Clouds Passing Jan 21 #3
Thanks Bob. jrthin Jan 21 #4
Elon? Sweet Freedom Jan 21 #10

Ilsa

(62,445 posts)
1. I don't understand. Why is this date significant?
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 01:51 AM
Jan 21

"Aspect is in agreement with those going on in her husband's chart that day."

NJCher

(38,627 posts)
2. It means that whatever is happening
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 08:35 AM
Jan 21

To Trump is also happening to Melania.

This could indicate a matter that affects living at the White House.

I’m going to project an idea or two. First, we know that Trump has recently told us that he messed with the vote in Pennsylvania. We know also that people have been asking the governor, Josh Shapiro, to look into this matter

Let’s say, for example, that we find Trump did indeed tamper with the vote in Pennsylvania, using the technical expertise of muskrat. This could affect his residency at the White House.

Many other sources, such as the tarot card readers that we watch from this forum, keep drawing the same card(s). In particular, Mary Ann keeps getting the death card, and IIRC, so does Maighstir. I just watched two of their most recent readings last night, and they are still turning up these cards. When the tower appears blown up, it kind of looks like things are going to hell in a handbasket, for Trump, anyway.

The other issue is Trump‘s health. If you recall, he refused to release his medical reports: He does not look well. Right before the election, he made a comment that makes one wonder if he is even living in the same time zone as the rest of us. What he said was that he was significantly winning over Kamala, 65–35. This indicates a mental slip that shows he thinks he’s still running against Kamala.

Bob gives us the aspects that are significant. He does not, however, explain them. You can easily figure this out on your own by taking the aspects and putting them in a search engine. That will give you plenty of reading that will tell you possibilities for what might happen and forhow this is shaping up.

The planets and aspects he has described here are about as severe as they can get.


bobnicewander

(964 posts)
5. Thank you
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 01:12 PM
Jan 21

NJCher for helping me out.

Also thanks to all who reply to my posts. Positive or negative comments are helpful.

I look for dates that have transits or progressions to a person's or organization's chart. These are mostly difficult or negative for those on the Right and mostly easy or positive for those on the Left.

The charts for many on the Right on March 4th receive hard aspects involving the outer planets (Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto). Because so many on the Right are hit on that day I think it may be tRump incapacitated so severely in some manner that he can't function as president anymore. It need not be death (stroke perhaps?). As I have stated over and over, there is no telling exactly what event any aspect may accompany.

There is stress on that day for Vance but he also has transiting Jupiter trine his progressed Venus on that day and transiting Venus on his progressed Moon (with transiting Uranus trine both of them)..

NJCher

(38,627 posts)
8. yes, should have mentioned that
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 02:18 PM
Jan 21
incapacitated so severely in some manner that he can't function as president anymore. It need not be death (stroke perhaps?).

Both the tarot card readers I mention also point out that it could mean the end of trumpism, and not necessarily trump himself.

I'll settle for that, LOL.

I recall when I was learning Jungian dream analysis with a therapist that I was coached that "death" in a dream did not necessarily mean death. It could mean the end of a bad habit, the end of an aspiration, the end of a problem, etc.

Anyway, glad you brought that up. I noticed on this latest reading that when Mary Ann drew the "death" card this time that she didn't flinch. In the past she was horrified and you could see it in her voice and body language.

She is apparently acclimating to the idea that we're going to saying "Buh-bye" to trumpism.

It's damn time. Isn't nearly a decade enough?

Ilsa

(62,445 posts)
9. K&R!!! This is fascinating...
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:05 PM
Jan 21

I think he looks poorly, too, and I think Melania knows his mental and physical health are declining. She seems more cheerful these days, and she's lost weight. I think she's looking forward to a big change in her life.
STrump looked feeble on the dance floor last night. I hadn't heard about his campaign/ Kamala Harris gaff.

Sweet Freedom

(4,019 posts)
10. Elon?
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:43 PM
Jan 21

Have you by chance looked at Elon's chart for that day, as well? (Assuming he's still around.)

(Your posts about this date are keeping me centered, lol.)

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