Is there any collective wiccan or pagan effort to banish SHitler and Muskrat?
Should there be?
Kittycatkat
(1,743 posts)that would banish Trump & his magats!
Deep State Witch
(11,539 posts)Some of us have been trying since 2015. Unfortunately political magick doesn't always have the outcome that you want. I would suggest reading Laura Tempest Zakroff's books.
https://lauratempestzakroff.com/
biophile
(546 posts)Prayer, spells, Reiki, chants - throw it all at them!
FirstLight
(14,444 posts)called Magical Resistance...it was "hex Putin" but it grew in scope...
doc03
(37,252 posts)Mike 03
(17,927 posts)voodoo and it seems to have been successful. I don't know where she learned to do this, and after it worked she stopped cold. This is when she was pretty young--in her early 20s or maybe late teens.
Nigrum Cattus
(308 posts)Also patience
Frasier Balzov
(3,711 posts)it is probably not ethical or legal to devote directed thought during an agreed upon time of day to stopping certain heartbeats.
Such thoughts are impermissible even without any physical assault planned and even from a distance in the comfort of your home.
It would be impermissible to use your energy in this way and would invite even more evil into the world.
If I'm right about this, which time of day would be the most unethical due to its indisputable efficacy?
Wicked Blue
(6,955 posts)and there's a part of the Wiccan Law of Three that says whatever one does for good or ill is returned three times over.
I read that comment as a reverse exhortation.
Regardless, the ethics depend on one's individual framework. If an attack is incoming, it seems ethical to prevent harm to those least able to defend themselves, whatever form that prevention might take.there may be consequences to that defense, of course -- but that is a different discussion.
CousinIT
(10,760 posts)Maybe they explosively fight one another or resign in embarrassment or whatever.
Mike 03
(17,927 posts)it occurred once a month, either on a full or new moon. It was big enough that it made the mainstream press.
EDIT: This is important. It wasn't to harm Trump. It was called a binding ritual or something. The purpose of the spell was to render any actions he undertook to be ineffective. Even though I'm a Buddhist, there was nothing in the ritual that was a violation of my precepts, so I modified the ritual and participated for a month or two, then lost interest. But I think there might be some value in collective concentration, so I would probably do it again if the opportunity arose.
Wicked Blue
(6,955 posts)Mike 03
(17,927 posts)Thank you!!
See my post #10
There are actually a whole bunch of articles on it.
I doubt I would have thrown out my copy of the spell, but I don't know where it is. Anyway, I'd only do it if that community was doing it. But I loved the idea at the time, and I wish they would do it again.
Mike 03
(17,927 posts)Each month, thousands of witches cast a spell against Donald Trump
How the witches of the #MagicResistance rise up against the Trump administration
by Tara Isabella Burton
Updated Oct 30, 2017, 3:19 PM UTC
The spell, a variant on a traditional binding spell found in many contemporary neo-pagan and other occult practices, involves channeling energy to limit Trumps power, so that he may fail utterly/that he may do no harm. (Practitioners have the option to add, Youre fired.)
Some members, like Doucette, cast the spell alone at home, communicating with fellow activists by Facebook Messenger around each monthly ritual, which is timed to coincide with the waning moon, and exchanging photographs of home altars. Others like Magic Resistance NYCs moderator, known as Katherine Gojira, practice right in front of their stated enemy: casting the binding spell in front of Trump Tower.
More here:
https://www.vox.com/2017/6/20/15830312/magicresistance-restance-witches-magic-spell-to-bind-donald-trump-mememagic
CousinIT
(10,760 posts)Limiting the damage they can do. Not stopping heartbeats - I'D NEVER MESS WITH THAT. Too dangerous.
Mike 03
(17,927 posts)I totally supported the witches. And I believe, too , that these things make a difference and matter, and that there is way, way more going on here than meets the eye. There are spells in Tantric Buddhism too. At a certain advanced level, practitioners are authorized to do (or attempt to do) some actions that most people would not associate with Buddhism as it is understood in the west.
There is also Technical Remote Viewing and Technical Remote Influencing. I will be careful here, but there are tools for spiritual warriors.
Wicked Blue
(6,955 posts)Maybe invoking the Law of Three, seeking that they fulfil their own karma.
Another possibility is working with Marion Weinstein's Words of Power.
What is the essence of what we seek? Peace? Democracy? The rule of law? Justice? Safety? Domestic harmony/ We need to collectively come up with the best possible goal to work for.
A rough example:
There is One Power,
which is the source of peace
and I (name) am a manifestation of that Power
Therefore peace is mine (ours) here and now
I hereby release all negative causes, effects, manifestations, forms, and the essence of worry
And perfect peace is mine (ours)
For the good of all
and according to free will
and so it must be (so mote it be.)
My source is Weinstein's book Positive Magic, originally published in 1978.
One caveat is that you can't do this work on behalf of another person or persons without their permission. Or seek something that changes or otherwise affects them.
Instead, you focus on what it is that you yourself seek. And use a positive format assuming that this goal is already in your life.
spinbaby
(15,244 posts)a witchy friend told me that she put a picture of the orange menace into a jar, jammed a bunch of nails and broken glass into the jar, peed in the jar, and then sealed it up and buried it. I asked her much later if it did any good and her reply was that no, but it made her feel better.