to farmers who need them. Working with them rather than trying to gouge them is what develops brand loyalty. If they feel good about the product, they'll buy that accessory or other, related, product from JD.

IF they feel like they're getting the shaft, though, they'll be less inclined to splash out on new equipment when they're flush.

absurd "license agreement" shit, and become more of a partner with the farmers, rather than a gouger. If they do that, they will build brand loyalty and be partners rather than adversaries. Over the long haul, they'll have a better business model.

This response makes more sense to me. But I am not going to hold my breath on JD salesmen changing. Great ideas though, MADem. Funny thing is that every where I look there's a JD and they're corporate types laughing all the way to the bank while the farmers, rightfully so, imo, solve their own problems pragmatically.

Great ideas though, MADem.

♡lmsp

Consumer Affairs
JD complaints here:

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/deere.html

The new cars had computers controlling engine management and AC/heater systems. If you had the correct connecting cables and the Dealer only diagnostic tools you could read the trouble codes and diagnose problems. The thing was ONLY the dealers had the training and the tools to do this so only the dealers could work on the newest cars. This cut out the independent shops and mechanics.(I was one at the time).
As things progressed there began to be a market in diagnostic tools/ software and the model specific connectors required to read the systems. Eventually the big tool companies like Snap-On brought out diagnostic stations and connectors to do it for every car. It made sense for the manufactures not to alienate their customers by retaining such control over how and where individual cars were serviced.

Hopefully John Deere will come to a similar understanding regarding customer relations. But who knows? Greed is a powerful addiction.

not that i would buy a brand new machine, as i would likely buy one used (not in the market, just saying).
either way, i would hack that sucker in a new york minute.
it's hard enough to be a farmer w/o getting screwed by the guys you depend on to do your job.

the way to get around that is to have a spouse/family member buy the thing, and "sell it second-hand" to the person doing the hacking.

They're going about this the wrong way. Stupid. Greedy.

Answer: They use ground up $100 bills in the paint....