Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumHow America's Gun Manufacturers Are Quietly Getting Richer Off Taxpayers
The gun lobby crowed about political payback: "We hope that sends a very strong message," remarked then National Rifle Association president Jim Porter, on a NRA radio show. What Porter didn't mention was what Alabama had done to sweeten the deal: By relocating to Huntsville, Remington, a $1-billion firearms conglomerate owned by the Manhattan private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management, would receive state and local grants, tax breaks, and other incentives worth approximately $69 millionthe equivalent of getting about $14 from every resident of Alabama.
Since 2003, state and local governments from Alabama to Tennesee have given more than $120 million worth of taxpayer funds to at least seven major firearms companies, according to research by Mother Jones. Most of those subsidiesnearly $100 millionhave been pledged just in past three years by states seeking to lure gun producers from the Northeast, where new firearm regulations have angered industry leaders.
"I've had CEOs in New England tell me that the offers from states' economic development teams are so extraordinary that they could essentially move their factories for free," Larry Keane, senior vice president of the National Shooting Sports Federation, told Guns & Ammo. "In some cases they've received these offers almost daily over extended periods of time."
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/gun-manufacturers-subsidies-southern-states
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)This is a common way to attract manufacturers and create jobs for your state. Do you see something wrong with this?
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,605 posts)...what those bad politicians in the Northeast did. Passing laws that are unfriendly to the most popular type of rifle in the country and the firearm used least in murders and assaults is heinous. Then refusing to counter offers from other states to keep people working just for the sake of political posturing is insulting.
I also can't imagine why those companies would pay attention to the bottom line and do something shocking like controlling costs.
I mean really? Acting surprised that your head hurts after you hit it on the wall is one thing. Being surprised that the wall is just going on about its business is well amusing.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Its a shame the Northeast, which used to be heavy with builders, is losing so many job oppurtunities due to politics.
"Beretta Joins the Southward Migration of Major Manufacturing
On July 27, 2014, Beretta announced it is moving all manufacturing operations from MD southward to TN. They are far from the first to go. Kahr Arms left NY for PA. PTR Industries left CT and American Tactical Imports left NY both for SC. And, Remington Arms, O.F. Mossberg & Sons, Ruger, Colt, Stag Arms announced expansions in southern states, including Alabama, Florida, and Texas."
Its not an uncommon theme in 2014. In 2013, we saw the rise of massive legislation in CT, NY, and MD. Several small to mid-sized companies made moves that garnered at least local headlines. The larger manufacturers, including Beretta, started announcing expansions and individual product shifts. But 2014 has now become a year for shifting entire manufacturing operations out of the northeast to primarily southern states."
ileus
(15,396 posts)DonP
(6,185 posts)Next thing you know auto manufacturers, printing companies and sub-assembly fabricators will want to get in on the deal.
Can the Mother Jones editors really be that stupid and clueless, or do they assume their readership is?
Gotta be one or the other, based on their steady flow of provably dumb articles related to firearms.
But anyway, we've been told right here on DU, by one of your co-hosts in Castle Bansalot that it's a good thing when a firearms company moves out of state. Never mind the hundred of skilled labor/tax paying jobs going away and the businesses they support.
In fact the phrase used was; "Good riddance to the makers of those death spewers, Nobody needs those kinds of jobs anyway and many more people will move to those states because they don't make guns there anymore".
Ah, I love what passes for gun controller economic logic.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Tax incentives were being used to lure businesses. It helps when your jobs and tax revenue are not wanted in your home state. Their loss.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)"We don't want their murderous industries!" we were told unceasingly. Now we're being told the loss of tax receipts and jobs is bad.
The ethics on this seem confused -- or, at least, the pretend ethicists are.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,605 posts)If guns are involved (real or fake), it's evil.
Solutions to gun problems (real or imaginary) are evil.
The results of solutions to gun problems (real or imaginary) are evil... even if they're formulated and implemented by gun-control.
The gun, gun owner, gun lobby, gun maker and gun seller is/are always wrong and always to blame.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)which have been given hand-outs in Austin and most everywhere else in the country. In case you haven't noticed, the offers to move plants from Point A to Point B is, for worse or worser, well-established, not an invention of Remington.
Beyond the pedestrian squander of the corporate state, is there a point? You did want Remington et àl to move away from some earth-based site of some symbolic importance, didn't you? Is it worth it to you?
beevul
(12,194 posts)You left out the part that claims that a majority of voters from 'Alabama to Tennesee' are against it.
Because a majority of voters from ''Alabama to Tennesee' aren't actually against it and no such claim was made?
Oh, I see.