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electric_blue68

(25,597 posts)
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:34 PM Dec 6

Just a small observation for myself re S.A.D. ...

(Seasonal Affectiveness Disorder)

I always get some. I can get really draggy sometimes from Nov through Feb/March beginning to perk back up in *April, other times more cranky ( I'm not habitually a cranky person). *Unless it stays much grayer than usual through much of Spring- it has happened ?twice and I stayed at lower energy levels till it got more sunny.

Anway, I'm pretty sure that a lot drumphf and Co actions/non-actions are making this year's SAD worse. I look at the 4:30PM sunset out my window, and go BLARGH!!!
More likely previously I usually just sighed, with infrequent bouts of real annoyance! Grrrrrr.

I kmow *longer days will return up here in NYC! 🥰👍 But for now- blargh! 😄

* I was totally shocked when on a gifted vacation to Puerto Rico that sunset was around 5:30PM! Wth?!!
If I had thought about the Earth's tilt - I'd have expected it.
But up here green trees, and more flowering equal longer days till June 21. Even then they stay longer for a good while.

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Just a small observation for myself re S.A.D. ... (Original Post) electric_blue68 Dec 6 OP
Have you tried solar spectrum lighting ? eppur_se_muova Dec 6 #1
No, never tried them... electric_blue68 Dec 6 #2
I got some relief today. multigraincracker Dec 6 #3
I have found that vitamin D supplements perfessor Dec 6 #4
I think I could sleep twelve hours a night in the winter darkness. hunter Dec 6 #5
Look on the bright side. Zackzzzz Dec 7 #6
True, it won't be that long till Solstice. And the sunset starts to get longer (incrementaly at first)after the 9th. electric_blue68 Dec 8 #8
I shallow breathe, bad posture at the waist up. Zackzzzz Dec 10 #10
TY. Interesting!... electric_blue68 Dec 10 #11
I set the poles in the ground, out to the side ____/o about 45%. Zackzzzz Dec 12 #12
Norwegian 4x4 workout, alternative Zackzzzz Dec 14 #14
I think I may have a touch of SAD, too. ShazzieB Dec 8 #7
Could be, and I totally get that! Good luck! electric_blue68 Dec 8 #9
Well, you can try my methodology if you want to. OldBaldy1701E Dec 13 #13
Probably not, but TY. electric_blue68 Dec 15 #15
I am glad that it does not suck. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #16
TY! electric_blue68 Tuesday #17

eppur_se_muova

(40,860 posts)
1. Have you tried solar spectrum lighting ?
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:40 PM
Dec 6

I'm not sure what they call it nowadays, but you used to be able to buy fluorescent lamps that simulated the color spectrum of natural sunlight. It was supposed to combat SAD, but opinions were mixed.

perfessor

(350 posts)
4. I have found that vitamin D supplements
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 11:36 PM
Dec 6

… do a good job with me. I take 10,000 IU per day.

I am not a doctor. YMMV.

hunter

(40,323 posts)
5. I think I could sleep twelve hours a night in the winter darkness.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 11:36 PM
Dec 6

Alas, I've rarely had the opportunity to try it.


Zackzzzz

(242 posts)
6. Look on the bright side.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 12:45 AM
Dec 7

Winter Solstice is on December 21!!!!

My Aunt Lil would walk around the block, [Chicago]
in the morning, in summer and winter, everyday.

I am always cold, but since I walk, outside,
20-30 minutes, I rarely get that chill.
I use trekking poles because it helps my breathing.
If it's bad weather, I do physical therapy exercises, inside.

Since I have been doing this, I am
more accepting of the early darkness.

electric_blue68

(25,597 posts)
8. True, it won't be that long till Solstice. And the sunset starts to get longer (incrementaly at first)after the 9th.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:17 AM
Dec 8

The assisted living place I'm in the hall is a good city block long, and I walk it often 6xs, 8xs, 10xs back and forth.
We have lovely back yard that I go to about mid April through mid Oct.

I might try walking to a particular section up around the corner of my nabe in later April. In my previous (also Bronx) neighborhood I had a smallish park I could walk about 3-4 blocks uphill to after 2 block walk to get to that hill.

I used to love walking around my Brooklyn neighborhood which was nearish to the northern end of Prospect Park, and before that Grand Army Plaza and the nabe one next to it in thevother direction. Previously to that for many years I had a big park that was about 4 blocks away. Glorious.

Covid really messed w most of us to various annoying, upsetting to tragic degrees [my peeps were very lucky], and it threw my whole walking routine out whack never totally restored.
Going to try and do better this coming year!.

Anyway...yes, I saw someone 15+ yrs back using those treking poles. I think I asked them, and seemed to be a European thing to use.
Do you think that since they engage your upper body that; that improves your breathing?

Zackzzzz

(242 posts)
10. I shallow breathe, bad posture at the waist up.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:16 AM
Dec 10

My trekking poles, sticks, get my ribs and back up over my hips.
My muscles are in working mode, not in a brace.
I put my arms and sticks about 45 degrees, rather than
straight forward because this opens my front rib cage.
I try to pinch my shoulder blades.
That gets my slumping shoulders back toward my spine.
In this posture, I am able to breathe deeper.
I don't go for speed but perfection.
The sticks make my walking look like nordic track.
And my sticks help me to keep standing when my muscles get exhausted.
That's Me, 82 and growing.
I remember lots of instructions on YouTube.
Get the adjustable, tight locking and *lightest* sticks you can.
I hope this helps you.

electric_blue68

(25,597 posts)
11. TY. Interesting!...
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 02:17 PM
Dec 10

How inventive to improve your breathing, snd get exercise.

I don't need them at all. However should I decide to consider them bc useful to add upper body work while walking- I'll take your advice!
I'll take a quick now to get a feel for them.

Question. You're pointing them 45° angling forwards?

Zackzzzz

(242 posts)
12. I set the poles in the ground, out to the side ____/o about 45%.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 11:22 PM
Dec 12

It widens my shoulders out because I naturally curl forward on top of my curled rib cage.

not forward of my hips. not ____o--- This keeps my breathing shallow.
not wide/right angle, to left and right. not ____Io
____ is legs and body,
/,---, I, is arms, o head

You Tube
Rogue Valley Manor
Modified Nordic Technique for Older Adults
*They show the proper way, the right way.
I also add HIIT twice a week. Check that out.
Enjoy.

Zackzzzz

(242 posts)
14. Norwegian 4x4 workout, alternative
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 12:00 PM
Dec 14

Just came across 4x4 and have tried it twice.
So it's an interesting change.
I plan to alternate HIIT and 4x4.
I have an 800 ft driveway to the street.
Now I walk to the street slow, warm-up, one 4x4, then slow, cool-down.
I will be adding more 4x4 when I am more comfortable with the routine.
I fit these different exercises to my ability.
I just got a smart watch that I am learning to read.
I alternate days of physical therapy vs walking.
*Better to wear out than grow rusty.*

ShazzieB

(22,146 posts)
7. I think I may have a touch of SAD, too.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 01:26 AM
Dec 8

I take antidepressants all year around to keep my major depressive disorder from rearing its ugly head, but there are always stretches of time during the winter months when I'm tired all the time and want to sleep a LOT more than usual. So far, it has never lasted long enough to cause serious concern, but I may bring it up at my next appointment with my psychiatrist to see what he says.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,972 posts)
13. Well, you can try my methodology if you want to.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 06:09 PM
Dec 13

Namely, that my life sucks across the board and therefore the depression and lack of motivation is a constant all year long, not just during the holidays.

It is hard to feel down when there is nowhere lower to go. Which, interestingly enough, can help cancel out some of the depressive feelings.

electric_blue68

(25,597 posts)
17. TY!
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 10:39 AM
Tuesday

Oh, I've had my share of sucky times! And starting young at 5 1/2.
On balance definitely more good times than bad.
So, yeah, some genuine good luck!

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