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Thunderbeast

(3,569 posts)
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 09:55 PM Jan 7

My son is detoxing from opioids and meth

Has been in our home for three days. We have Suboxone, and hope he will take the first dose this evening. After many false starts at this, if he takes the meds, we hope that the cravings will subside.

Looking for guidance about expectations here. He has been to medical detox twice but left after a couple of days. He refuses to trythat route again (for now). We wish he would go through this with medical resources, but he says it is too confining. He has regular outpatient counselling and a team of clinical and medical professionals. He makes itto about half of his scheduled appointments and groups. He is not interested in the accountability of 12 step programs.

He has been asleep for nearly the whole time he has been here. Has anyone on this forum been through this themselves or with a loved one? Will Suboxone help him avoid street drugs?

Thanks


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mahina

(19,207 posts)
2. Wishing you and him and your family good luck.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 10:22 PM
Jan 7

Last edited Wed Jan 8, 2025, 12:48 PM - Edit history (3)

I believe Suboxone is helpful to revive people who have taken too much of the opiods. (Reading our fellow DUer’s comments, I learned it helps in other ways too. Wonderful to know.)

I can offer only encouragement and these points:
1. You can look up studies using yʻur search term and the term ʻpubmedʻ for peer reviewed journal abstracts and often the whole study. For instance the words pubmed and opiod recovery gave a number of studies. This one has a lot of citations ( people who
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7547872/
Recovery From Opioid Use Disorder (OUD) After Monthly Long-acting Buprenorphine Treatment: 12-Month Longitudinal Outcomes From RECOVER, an Observational Study
Not saying thatʻs useful but you may find other better iones for your situation.


Movies are kind of my love language, so here is one about recovery. Not the current plan, and not related to opioids or meth but alcohol, so different, I understand. Still, hopefully, interesting independently of that. The hard part is so worthwhile, both the film and real life. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6288124/. Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far On Foot

Aloha


Trellastic

(67 posts)
3. Are mentors available to support him in home?
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 10:27 PM
Jan 7

I don't know if such a thing exists, but it seems as if it might be helpful. Ensure that he eats and drinks per doctor's orders. Blessings to you for your loving support for your son.
🙏

Thunderbeast

(3,569 posts)
5. He sees a recovery specialist at least once per week.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 10:50 PM
Jan 7

He, himself, was a homeless addict ten years ago. Their relationship is good, and his approach is "matter of fact". He has been there, and is very good at helping my son (and us) understand the chemistry of addiction and how addicts often go through cycles where usage is throttled by the ability to pay for a fix. By doing a partial detox, it takes less money to fund the next cycle (for a while).

johnnyplankton

(465 posts)
4. In my experience no addict will ever get clean until they want to...
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 10:44 PM
Jan 7

It's sad but most regular people cannot fathom why someone would continue to ruin their lives with drugs and booze, but life without booze and drugs is inconceivable to an addict. They think it's the only thing holding them together. I know this from firsthand experience. Good luck. Hopefully he'll see the light.

Clouds Passing

(3,174 posts)
6. I have. Comfort and strength to you, I know what you're going through Thunderbeast.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 10:58 PM
Jan 7

I went through home detox with him twice, it’s gut wrenching. He didn't want professional help. He wouldn’t go to inpatient or stick with any outpatient programs. He took Suboxone for a short time then went back to the dope. I couldn’t get him to stop. He didn't want to stop.

My son died from a fentanyl overdose. He was using fentanyl and meth together. This stuff is evil. I love him so much 💚

Please please please try to get him into a good inpatient long term detox program. I wish I could be of better help.

Thunderbeast

(3,569 posts)
8. I am sorry to hear about your son....
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 12:24 AM
Jan 8

We lost a very good friend who looked to us as his "adoptive Mom and Pop". He lived out of state, and tried several times to quit fentanyl. He died with street friends around him who abandoned him...taking his phone and wallet in hopes he would not be identified.

My son took his first two doses of suboxone tonight. Contrary to what his prescriber hoped for, he reports feeling crappy.

All we have is hope and patience. We maintain boundaries, but always support him on his path to recovery.

Clouds Passing

(3,174 posts)
10. Therapy has helped me tremendously.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 09:33 AM
Jan 8

Internal Family Systems, EMDR, somatic Experiencing, Hypnotherapy, Art and Music Therapy

NAC (N-acetyl Cystiene) is helpful to reduce cravings. It is a powerful antioxidant which can help remove the toxic substances from the body and bolster the immune system. Replacing the lost minerals in the body is key. Healing the brain is also key.

Sending all involved healing energy 💚

AloeVera

(2,139 posts)
7. Suboxone worked for a friend addicted to fentanyl.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 11:23 PM
Jan 7

It took care of the cravings and withdrawal symptoms and allowed him to live a fairly normal life for about two years now. He's been struggling on and off due to mental health and financial issues but no doubt Suboxone worked to keep him off street drugs - as long as he took it every day or didn't miss too many.

Sleeping a lot is a form of withdrawal. Opiods have horrible withdrawal symptoms as you probably know. Combined with the strong cravings, they make getting off the drugs really hard, without Suboxone.

I believe there is a different combination of drugs for meth addiction.

Best of luck to your son and to you as well.

Rhiannon12866

(225,875 posts)
9. I'm in AA which worked for me (15 years), but I know others who attend Narcotics Anonymous meetings
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:26 AM
Jan 8

Since many are cross addicted - and some just prefer AA. And I recommend getting a sponsor, someone who has been there and can contribute helpful advice and guidance. I met mine at my second AA meeting and she helped me so much.

I also used to attend meetings with a guy who was on Suboxone and it really helped him, but last I knew he was still on it.

I know that these are early days for your son, so patience is necessary. It took me six months to put down alcohol for good and even in my sixteenth year, I still attend meetings since I need to remain connected. And I also have made good friends in the program and that sure helps.

I wish your son all the luck in the world, I hope that he wants sobriety this time. And I wish your family support as well, I used to attend Alanon meetings which is for family and friends to support alcoholics/addicts.

Here's the link for Narcotics Anonymous, since meetings which provide advice and support was what worked for me.

https://usa-na.org/

Thunderbeast

(3,569 posts)
13. Today, he said he was done.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:40 PM
Jan 9

Put on his day pack, and walked out the door to go home. His next fixes will be cheaper (for a little while).

It is clear that sobriety is our mission...not his.

Next time he tells us that he is tired of "the life" we will not offer "DETOX LIGHT". He will have to go elsewhere.

We are way too old for this crap!

Thunderbeast

(3,569 posts)
14. The cycle continues :(
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:43 PM
Jan 9

Put on his day pack, and walked out the door to go home. His next fixes will be cheaper (for a little while).

It is clear that sobriety is our mission...not his.

Next time he tells us that he is tired of "the life" we will not offer "DETOX LIGHT". He will have to go elsewhere.

We are way too old for this crap!

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