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RandomNumbers

(18,338 posts)
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 12:35 PM Jan 11

Netflix question - best streaming device for an old "smart" TV?

Related to my Roku question thread, here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/114321732

I have the option to return the Roku. As noted on the other thread, %&*$## Netflix won't work with either an older TV ("smart" TV, so not THAT old), OR with a Chromecast. (apparently it won't work with any Chromecast model, but I would have to buy a Google Streaming or something). But Roku has pissed me off mightily and I haven't even set up the device or created an account yet.

So, starting back at square one - would Roku still be the best option? or what would you suggest? (other than just saying f* it to my "free" year of Netflix?)

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liberal N proud

(61,013 posts)
5. I have ROKU on several older TV's
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:01 PM
Jan 11

basically, I did that because they were the least expensive option for older TV's that do not have the aps available on the home screens.
I have a 55 in Samsung in the office that I have Roku to extend the life of the TV and in the guest bedroom an old Vizio 32" that was pre-smart tv era.

I don't think I paid more than $30 for any of the devices. I have it on a couple of other smart TV's because I can set it up to get some APs that were not available on the smart TV such as smaller streaming services. One for watching some college sports that was not available was the driver. and I can get some local channels for areas were I do not live. I live in South Carolina but like to catch up on what is happening in Kansas City.

AZJonnie

(225 posts)
6. Define "best"?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:18 PM
Jan 11

Just so you know, the oldness of the TV becomes irrelevant in almost all streamer scenarios (as long as the TV is 1080p or above, and has HDMI inputs, any streamer will work). As someone mentioned above, the Shield is one of the 'best' (I have one) but it's also overkill for most people. It's the best one if you have a full blown Atmos home theater system, and/or a large collection of blu-ray rips on a hard disk and want to use it's built-in Plex server functionality to watch them, for example. An Apple TV is also a top of the line streamer, more user friendly than a Shield, and its stronger than the Shield (feature-wise) for the average user, but it's also pretty pricey.

If by 'best' you mean one that plays Netflix for as little money as possible, that's a whole different question. Not sure why you think no Chromecast model works for NF? This one definitely does https://www.amazon.com/Google-Nest-GA01919-GA01919-US-Chromecast/dp/B08KRV7S22. There's also various Amazon Firestick options. If it were me I'd probably look for a used Apple TV on craigslist or the like, but not sure if that's the right choice for you.

RandomNumbers

(18,338 posts)
7. Thanks for the info
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:43 PM
Jan 11

Yeah in my initial googling around Chromecast for Netflix I got the idea that the "Chromecast" model line is discontinued by Google and that none of the models work with the ad-supported Netflix (which is what I have).

Looking at it again, I see they have models with "Google TV" that supposedly work with the ad-supported Netflix. But then this page says:

Using a mobile device to watch Netflix on a TV isn't available with an ad-supported experience. To use your mobile device to watch Netflix on your TV, you'll need to change to an ad-free plan.


Sorry, Netflix, not doing that. Just want to be able to use the "free" year I got on something other than a smartphone screen, and not the computer screen that I work at all day.

(your link doesn't open for me by the way, but no matter.)


The info on Plex is interesting. Not in the mode now to set up a server but if I were, that would surely be an advantage. Roku will supposedly work with Plex content.

AZJonnie

(225 posts)
13. A streaming device is not a mobile device so the 'but then' is not really applicable to your sitch
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 03:56 PM
Jan 13

It's just saying you can't get ad-supported NF on your phone, which isn't what you want anyway Pretty dang sure any streamer will support ad-free NF. And while yes, Roku and most other streamers will support playing Plex content (i.e. they have Plex clients available), that still requires a Plex server running on a PC (or a Linux box), with adequate storage available. Heck, most newer smart TV's you can install a Plex client. The Shield is different tho in that it can be your Plex server just by plugging in a hard drive via USB ... and of course has a Plex client. The Shield hardware also has advanced codec sound support for movies played through it's Plex client that other devices don't have, esp. not a Plex client on a Smart TV (but not even an Apple TV box can quite match it).

hlthe2b

(107,509 posts)
8. I have nothing but "dumb" tv's but the two I tend to use have roku sticks and work fine.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:45 PM
Jan 11

The oldest of the two Roku stick devices (probably 6-7 yo by now) has had an issue with overheating so I put a very small fan at the back of the tv and no problems since.

Beyond that, I'm not sure I can help. I have been happy with ROKU.

eppur_se_muova

(37,971 posts)
9. I actually got Roku to work on an old 28" Phillips (digital, pre-HD) with one problem ...
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:50 PM
Jan 11

the text on the Roku screen is so tiny that it's unreadable at anything more than a foot or two away. I still don't have a Roku account or any subscriptions. Thinking of Sling Blue, unless they require autopay (they probably do).

It required a three-channel AV to HDMI converter (not a passive adapter, a digital converter. The latter requires a USB power source; the former needs no power).

So I guess Roku wins in the backwards-compatible technology category. Can't say much for their contract w/customers -- in my experience, it's non-existent.

1WorldHope

(991 posts)
10. We use Chromecast on a 2018 so so smart tv ..
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jan 11

.. for Netflix and it works fine. I wonder if because it's free that it has bugs. I'm no expert.

RandomNumbers

(18,338 posts)
11. Yes, per the Netflix page I found (again) today
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 02:20 PM
Jan 11

It is the ad-supported accounts that don't work with Chromecast.

Previously I had the regular account, before they started with ads. I used it with Chromecast but really didn't care for using the app on my phone vs a normal tv remote. I had dropped that plan awhile ago. I just got a "free" year of the ad-supported version with my internet upgrade (at which time I also dumped regular cable). I've been watching stuff on Prime and just now got around to buying something to make Netflix work. I figured with Roku I get a bunch of other streaming stuff that no lo longer works on my old, senile TV. (like YouTube and Pandora and Plex, allegedly). So once my NF "free" period is up, I probably won't want to renew, because there is so much content out there, and I am easily amused.


(I keep putting "free" in quotes because how is it free if I can only use it by buying something else?)

1WorldHope

(991 posts)
12. Right. I did the same thing with Starz.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:40 PM
Jan 11

I wanted to watch the last season of Outlander. It would only cast every other episode. It was a 1 month free thing. I called and the said they are having trouble with connecting to Chromecast but will have it fixed by summer. So I dropped it.

AZJonnie

(225 posts)
14. Sounds like you've settled on an option but here's something to know
Tue Jan 14, 2025, 05:51 PM
Jan 14

Last edited Tue Jan 14, 2025, 06:27 PM - Edit history (1)

If you buy an Android TV/Google streaming device (which may have Chromecast in the name), that means it supports Chromecasting. I.E. you can cast to/from that device to/from other devices in your home (but not free Netflix). However, when you plug such a device into your TV via HDMI, it is not using Chromecast in any way. It's a direct connection. So something not working with Chromecast is quite different from not working with a Google TV streaming device.

LeftInTX

(31,840 posts)
15. I have had the same Roku since 2011. I don't even know what model it is anymore.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:58 PM
Jan 17

I think I got the second best model. It's been a bargain!

I have a dumb TV.

I have heard some of the apps stop working on smart TV's after awhile.

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