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TexasTowelie

(124,774 posts)
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 04:18 PM Sunday

How France is becoming a 'third-world' economy - CaspianReport



Summary of France's Economic Crisis

This video analyzes France's deepening economic and political challenges, arguing the country faces a "slow-motion collapse" despite its wealth and global influence.

Three Interconnected Crises

1. Demographic Crisis
Fertility rate dropped from 2.0 (2010) to 1.6 (2024), with births declining 20%
Worker-to-retiree ratio collapsed from 5:1 (1990) to nearly 2:1 today, heading toward 1.5:1 by 2040
Productivity growth stagnated at 0.3% annually (half the OECD average)
Pension system now consumes 14% of GDP—more than education, defense, and transportation combined

2. Industrial Decline
Manufacturing share fell from 26% (1980) to 13% today
France lost 900,000 manufacturing jobs after the euro's introduction
Labor costs are highest in the eurozone (50% above gross salary vs. 30% in Germany)
Major companies (Michelin, Renault, Peugeot) relocated production to Eastern Europe and Morocco

3. Political Paralysis
51 consecutive years of budget deficits; debt tripled to €3.4 trillion over 25 years
Seven prime ministers since 2017, none delivering lasting reforms
Parliament fragmented across five blocks with no majority
Anti-establishment parties (far-right and far-left) now command over 50% support, blocking comprehensive reform

Market Consequences

France's bond yields have risen to 3.2% (highest since 2012), with the spread over German bonds approaching 80 basis points. The country violates EU fiscal rules with 6% deficits and 113% debt-to-GDP ratio, projected to reach 125% by 2030.
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How France is becoming a 'third-world' economy - CaspianReport (Original Post) TexasTowelie Sunday OP
Oh well, the US is already at 125 percent debt-to-GDP BeyondGeography Sunday #1
Thanks for the summary, time saver for us all bucolic_frolic Sunday #2
For once, all of us can be thankful for AI. TexasTowelie Sunday #3
The common man in the US had better pay attention as we are beginning to look like France Stargazer99 Sunday #4

BeyondGeography

(40,772 posts)
1. Oh well, the US is already at 125 percent debt-to-GDP
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 04:27 PM
Sunday

And Orange Julius says we have da best economy EVAH.

bucolic_frolic

(53,593 posts)
2. Thanks for the summary, time saver for us all
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 04:36 PM
Sunday

A global deflationary spiral could wipe out everything. Debt is a balance sheet entry. It always has to be cancelled, refinanced, or written off in some manner. Few notice because they call them something else or something related to their era, but we've had banking collapse after banking collapse, even since 1970. NYC meltdown, the S&L Crisis, the dotcom bubble, the housing bubble, Lehman Bros, etc. Each is met with an infusion of cash to prevent collapse. They're all accounting tricks. I don't think crypto is any different.

TexasTowelie

(124,774 posts)
3. For once, all of us can be thankful for AI.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 05:33 PM
Sunday

I'm making an effort to use AI when the videos are more than ten minutes and only a minimal summary appears on YouTube. I'm using Leo AI with the Brave browser to obtain the summary and edit from there. Needless to say, it is far more accurate and efficient than I am as a writer. I may be 60, but I don't want to be left behind on my tech skills.

Stargazer99

(3,405 posts)
4. The common man in the US had better pay attention as we are beginning to look like France
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 08:55 PM
Sunday

In the 1700,s France found a solution to the problem with off with their heads. With AI many jobs will disappear and the agony will begin

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