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...Conversion.
The paper I'll discuss in this post is this one: Multiscale Mechanistic Insights into Hydrogen Production from Microalgae via Molten Hydroxide-Mediated Thermochemical Conversion Jun Li, Ling Lei, Dian Zhong, Hongyang Zuo, Han Zhu, Kuo Zeng, Haiping Yang, and Hanping Chen Environmental Science & Technology ]2026 60 (9), 7054-7066
It's written by scientists in China.
Since the paper involves the preparation of hydrogen from algae, one could argue, that it is literally "green" hydrogen, as chlorophyll is "green," although as we can easily see, the environmental sense of the word - which is widely abused, very, very, very often in connection with hydrogen scams - does not apply.
The um, introduction to the paper is rather cute:
Conventional thermochemical processes for microalgae, such as pyrolysis and gasification, are often constrained by persistent tar formation, ash clogging, and insufficient hydrogen yield/purity, (4−6) which adversely affect process efficiency and economic viability. In response, molten salt technology has emerged as a promising alternative, with molten hydroxides proving particularly effective. (7) These salts serve simultaneously as an efficient heat transfer fluid, an effective cracking catalyst, and a selective CO2 absorbent. (8,9) Previous work by the authors has demonstrated the superior effectiveness of molten hydroxides for microalgae processing, achieving a hydrogen yield of 67 mmol/g-microalgae with a purity of 80% while reducing tar formation by over 99%. (10,11) Approximately 58% of this hydrogen originated from the hydroxide itself, with the hydrogen utilization efficiency from the algae reaching 84.86%. This integrated performance outperforms that of the majority advanced catalytic and chemical looping systems in terms of clean and efficient hydrogen production...
During utilization, you don't say? Does this mean that we should ignore how hydrogen is made?
The IEA reports (as do many scientific papers) the carbon impact of hydrogen production:
IEA GHG Emissions of Hydrogen and Its Derivatives:
Perhaps they are discussing a perpetual motion machine, where the heat to melt group I hydroxides is provided by, um, hydrogen. Somehow I don't think so.
The molten hydroxide in this case is sodium hydroxide, mixed with sodium carbonate. The melting temperature of NaOH, a very caustic material, is 323 °C (598K). We may ask, whence the heat? (The authors reveal it at the end of the article by their affiliations.)
The experimental conditions:
Hastelloy is a nickel alloy with multiple other metals mixed in. It has been used in molten salt nuclear reactors, reactors I might note that have some rather serious materials science issues, particularly with respect to helium generation from neutron interactions with some of the lighter isotopes of nickel. (This is a problem.)
Some figures from the text:

The caption:
This indicates that the hydrogen produced will not be pure and will contain multiple compounds, one of which is carbon monoxide. Mixtures of hydrogen and carbon monoxide are known as "syn gas" from which petroleum like mixtures can be obtained using "FT chemistry," Fischer-Tropsch (which was industrialized in Nazi Germany and in Apartheid era South Africa). However the nitrogenous compounds are likely to poison FT catalysts.
The lab scale reactor used in the experiments:

Note that the hydrogen is carried out of the molten hydroxides in a stream of nitrogen, meaning, again, that additional steps would be required to purify the already challenging hydrogen gas, a nightmare to store.
An additional note:
Benzene and toluene are both carcinogens, and account for the Proposition 65 notices on gasoline pumps in California:
On every gasoline pump in the State, the notice reads:
⚠ WARNING: Breathing the air in this area or skin contact with petroleum products can expose you to chemicals including benzene, motor vehicle exhaust and carbon monoxide, which are known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Do not stay in this area longer than necessary. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov/service-station.
Of course, the fossil fuel marketeers trying to rebrand fossil fuels as "hydrogen" are only interested in cancer and carcinogenesis if they can stupidly tie it to nuclear plants.
Despite these warnings, people are willing to pay a lot of money for gasoline in California, more than ever, actually.
There is, by the way, a lot of nice chemistry in the paper, including a description of the PAHs - fossil fuel carcinogens - generated and the temperatures required to reduce, if not eliminate, them.
Usually, when citing scientific papers here, I often omit the institutions from which the authors come, but it seems important to do so in this case.
Ling Lei - State Key Laboratory of Coal Combustion, Huazhong University of Science and Technology, 1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, Hubei 430074, P. R. China
Dian Zhong - State Key Laboratory of Coal Combustion, Huazhong University of Science and Technology, 1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, Hubei 430074, P. R. China
Hongyang Zuo - State Key Laboratory of Coal Combustion, Huazhong University of Science and Technology, 1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, Hubei 430074, P. R. China
Han Zhu - State Key Laboratory of Coal Combustion, Huazhong University of Science and Technology, 1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, Hubei 430074, P. R. China
Haiping Yang - State Key Laboratory of Coal Combustion, Huazhong University of Science and Technology, 1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, Hubei 430074, P. R. China; Orcidhttps://orcid.org/0000-0002-8323-8879
Hanping Chen - State Key Laboratory of Coal Combustion, Huazhong University of Science and Technology, 1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, Hubei 430074, P. R. China
I added the bold.
This of course, is consistent with current Chinese practice for making hydrogen, using coal, something that is likely to be utilized more than ever for hydrogen production now that the Asian source of dangerous natural gas is constrained by the closing of the Straits of Hormuz has been closed by the stumbling insanity of the orange pedophile in the White House.
Thermochemical reactions for hydrogen production are well known, including the SI process that is now being piloted in China, driven by nuclear heat, which obviously is superior to coal except in the minds of German antinukes and, um, fossil fuel salespeople working to rebrand fossil fuels as "hydrogen" with slick commercial videos. The SI process does not require fossil fuels, and is catalytic water splitting via the generation of SO2 from the thermal decomposition of sulfuric acid followed by the iodine mediated Bunsen reaction.
Anyway, there's a lot of interesting stuff in this paper in a purely chemical mechanistic sense, and I've long had ideas about the use of molten hydroxides, although my interest is primarily in a highly radioactive hydroxide, cesium hydroxide, which has some very wonderful properties.
This said, this lab scale process, like much of the other hydrogen bullshit that flies around here, is not really useful.
Have a nice weekend.
FadedMullet
(894 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 21, 2026, 12:33 AM - Edit history (2)
......word "molten" that first caught my eye, asking the obvious question "from whence comes the heat" to make it molten. It got only better with "carbon capture" (an old favorite), "emission of gaseous tar", "impure hydrogen", "carbon monoxide", "poisoned catalysts", and "carcinogens". What's not to like ? Your mention of Nazi Germany and apartheid South Africa was a tiny bit gratuitous but still pretty funny.
NNadir
(37,941 posts)...FT process, "evil" in the climate sense, but not necessarily the province of horrid political regimes, is utilized whenever access to fossil petroleum (and/or "natural" gas) is limited.
German oil during the Second World War was driven by the fact that their only access to petroleum was in the Romanian Ploesti oil fields after the invasion of the Soviet Union, (which had been supplying oil to Germany before the Barbarossa attack as part of the 1939 "non-aggression" pact signed to dismember Poland). In fact, one of the motivations for the German invasion of the Soviet Union was to seize the Caucus oil fields, and it played a significant part, beyond Hitler's obsessions, in the German refusal to do what made military sense in the autumn of 1942, and withdraw from Stalingrad.
Similarly, decades later, Apartheid South Africa was limited by sanctions on ready access to oil.
I note that FT coal-to-oil was a big part of Jimmy Carter's energy policy after the Mideast embargos and gas lines in the US. We don't like to acknowledge as much, but if you look at late 1970's literature on energy, FT chemistry was widely discussed, and in fact funded, by the United States government. (These were pre fracking times.) Carter used this threat to put fear into Saudi Arabia and the Shah's Iran.
There is a risk that China - which has both the intellectual and industrial capacity and the coal to build FT plants - can easily build this capacity. China already leads the world in coal to hydrogen technology, and with hydrogen and carbon monoxide one can easily industrialize FT chemistry.
FT chemistry represents a further disaster in climate impacts, much worse than either coal or petroleum (and certainly gas) itself, but there are, regrettably, people more than willing to ignore the climate issue. FT chemistry is well known and it works. That is the real threat of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz over the long term.
The mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen is known as "syn gas" because it can synthesize any component of petroleum. However, it can also be utilized to synthesize the wonder fuel DME, dimethyl ether, a relatively small molecule with properties very similar to LPG, but with little or no climate risk. It is accessible from nuclear hydrogen and carbon dioxide, perhaps recovered from seawater. Heather Willauer at the US Naval Research Laboratory has demonstrated how to do this using nuclear power on aircraft carriers to make jet fuel, not DME, but FT fuel. (In this way FT fuel could - there's that awful word "could" again - in theory, lead to a closed carbon cycle. It has been run on a pilot scale, and is economic whenever the price of petroleum based jet fuel exceeds $6.00/gallon. There is no reason it could not be run to make DME to replace diesel fuel, LPG, dangerous natural gas, and in fact, gasoline in all current applications.
In 2011, the late great Nobel Laureate George Olah proposed a closed carbon cycle to address the on going and accelerating tragedy of what was then called "climate change," but today, having arrived is, in my opinion, better described as "extreme global heating" instead: Anthropogenic Chemical Carbon Cycle for a Sustainable Future George A. Olah, G. K. Surya Prakash, and Alain Goeppert Journal of the American Chemical Society 2011 133 (33), 12881-12898
The antinukes and "I'm not an antinukes" around here, who are bourgeois "we need our cars" kind of people in general, in my opinion "head of the ass" types, sometimes whine to me that nuclear power cannot power their fucking cars. It's just another indication of their very limited knowledge of energy science, their lack of imagination, and their idiotic childish paranoia coupled with an indifferent myopia with respect to broader humanity and world ecosystems in general.
This said, I personally don't believe that the car CULTure is sustainable in any form. We may need some self propelled machinery, farm machines, ambulances, buses, perhaps delivery vehicles if we can afford them, but we don't "need" cars. What we truly "need" can, and should be, run on DME sourced with primary nuclear energy's heat, in a process intensive setting, The belief that we "need" cars has had a tragic impact on the planet.
Thanks for your comment.
John ONeill
(88 posts)The Danish small reactor company Seaborg Industries (named after the great Swedish-American chemist) was working on using molten NaOH as a low-pressure, high-temperature moderator for their molten salt reactor design. They must have hit a roadblock, as they've now reverted to more conventional graphite, and also changed their name to Saltfoss Energy.
Similarly, Transatomic Power a few years ago proposed zirconium hydride (maybe stabilised with yttrium hydride) as a moderator. Eventually they had to admit that their neutronics calculations were way too optimistic, and they're now out of business. Aalo Atomics, more recently, were going to use uranium zirconium hydride fuel, like the TRIGA research reactors, but in a sodium-cooled reactor. There was some doubt about how soon the hydrogen would migrate out of the fuel at high temperature; in the end Aalo went for UO2 and graphite, mainly because supply could be guarranteed sooner. At least they'll be well set up to switch to a fast spectrum sodium design, if they're successful.
NNadir
(37,941 posts)...topic. I would have never thought that NaOH, would be a good idea as a moderator. Although it might offer a decent epithermal spectrum, valuable for breeding with multi-cycled plutonium with a lot of 241Pu and/or its source 240Pu, as MOX used fuel would have, it is highly corrosive, something that the coal people described in the OP glossed over but addressed as best they can.
It does seem that Leslie Dewan, financed by Peter Theil, was of hot interest for a time, with her claim that she could eliminate the need for used fuel repositories. It seems she made so basic calculational errors, which embarrassed MIT, where she was a star undergraduate and graduate student. They fell for Transatomic as well.
The piece I'm writing for my son involves putting medium lived 137Cs and long lived 135Cs along with non-radioactive (natural cesium) 133Cs for certain neutronic purposes involved in making the bulk fission product cesium more highly radioactive for use. I believe that because of these special properties of radioactive cesium, its high gamma output, and ready solubility, make it extremely valuable.
Transatomic is a cautionary tale on hype.
In this case, there would be no need for nuclear waste dumps if similar applications can be found for the stream of elements across the periodic table found in used nuclear fuel. After nearly 40 years of working on the problem, I believe these applications exist. It may be possible in a sane world - although a sane world is less and less likely owing to the suicide of the United States and reactions around the world exploiting that suicide and suffering for it - for actinides and fission products to become extremely valuable materials.