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Tansy_Gold

(18,060 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 04:37 PM Jan 2023

STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Tuesday, 10 January 2023

STOCK MARKET WATCH, Tuesday, 10 January 2023



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AT THE CLOSING BELL ON 9 January 2023


Dow Jones 33,517.65 -112.96 (0.34%)
S&P 500 3,892.09 -2.99 (0.077%)
Nasdaq 10,635.65 +66.35 (0.63%)




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Quote for the Day:

Class distinction is the generator of Socialism.

The ordinary social triptych—upper, middle, and lower classes—will not suffice us in our inquiry. We must distinguish between the functions of the classes. The upper class is a remnant of the feudal days, of the manorial times, when land-holding brought with it social distinction and political prerogative. In this sense we have no upper class in America. The middle class is composed of the business and professional element, and the lower class of the wage-earning element.

Samuel Peter Orth. Socialism and Democracy in Europe. Henry Holt and Company. (c) 1913.





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STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Tuesday, 10 January 2023 (Original Post) Tansy_Gold Jan 2023 OP
Our upper class is going to find out how ephemeral money is, sooner or later Warpy Jan 2023 #1
It's amazing how little they learn Tansy_Gold Jan 2023 #2
Nope, they amass these ridiculously vast fortunes and think it makes them godlike Warpy Jan 2023 #3
30-odd years ago, for those who are old enough to remember, Tansy_Gold Jan 2023 #4

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
1. Our upper class is going to find out how ephemeral money is, sooner or later
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 05:25 PM
Jan 2023

and they won't be the first to do so.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
3. Nope, they amass these ridiculously vast fortunes and think it makes them godlike
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 04:58 PM
Jan 2023

in their wisdom and set far above other men. Then a crash comes (and it always does when capitalism is deregulated) and all that paper just seems to evaporate. They're their own worst enemy as they try to unload what they have at rock bottom prices because cash will be king and they forgot to put aside enough of that. Some will work through the grief process through depression to acceptance that they're no better than anyone else, they just got lucky for a while; others will become more rapacious than ever, desperate to get back on top of the shitpile again, something that will be made a hell of a lot harder by new regulations that always follow a crash, if the crash is big enough to make billionaires into single number millionaires.

Tansy_Gold

(18,060 posts)
4. 30-odd years ago, for those who are old enough to remember,
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 06:08 PM
Jan 2023

I worked for a savings & loan company AFTER the Charles Keating/Lincoln Savings crash. I got to see the paperwork behind some of the loans that took people like Keating down, and took them down hard.

Simplified version:

One guy buys a bunch of properties @ fair market value. Sells one property to his buddy at an inflated price. Now all those other similar properties in that area are valued on paper at that inflated price. Instant millions/billions of collateral to borrow against and buy other sh*t. The problem was that they kinda forgot they had to pay back those loans. The only way to do that was to sell the properties at even more inflated prices, and no one wanted to buy. POP goes the ponzi bubble.

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