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Related: About this forumCarolina Forward highlights: What's up with Duke Energy?
Concerned about datacenters? Then you need to know more about gas pipelines.
All across North Carolina, a massive build-out is underway of natural gas pipelines. These pipelines are big: typically 2-3 feet in diameter, requiring a deep hole, for miles and miles in length. They are owned by private, for-profit corporations that typically seize private land through eminent domain agreed on by state officials.
Natural gas now powers most electricity in North Carolina. Most of the gas North Carolina consumes is pumped out of the ground in Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Texas, and pumped here over hundreds of miles of pipelines. Occasionally those pipelines explode.
Natural gas is a win-win for Duke Energy, the pipeline owners, and the oil and gas industry. Each one profits at every step in the chain - leaving consumers at the end of the line to pay up. And with the datacenter construction boom creating a massive new demand for electricity (Duke Energy itself says that datacenters make up 80% of all new power demand they forecast), all of them are only too happy to build more - because consumers are going to pay for it all.
And the gas pipelines make the whole system work.
More info: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/07052026/duke-energy-north-carolina-enbridge-pipeline-opposition/
Why does Duke Energy spend so much money to influence North Carolina politics?
Basically: Duke Energy has a very safe, extremely lucrative business with no competition. Buying politicians is how the corporation protects their monopoly to keep extracting wealth from North Carolinians. ⚡️
All across North Carolina, a massive build-out is underway of natural gas pipelines. These pipelines are big: typically 2-3 feet in diameter, requiring a deep hole, for miles and miles in length. They are owned by private, for-profit corporations that typically seize private land through eminent domain agreed on by state officials.
Natural gas now powers most electricity in North Carolina. Most of the gas North Carolina consumes is pumped out of the ground in Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Texas, and pumped here over hundreds of miles of pipelines. Occasionally those pipelines explode.
Natural gas is a win-win for Duke Energy, the pipeline owners, and the oil and gas industry. Each one profits at every step in the chain - leaving consumers at the end of the line to pay up. And with the datacenter construction boom creating a massive new demand for electricity (Duke Energy itself says that datacenters make up 80% of all new power demand they forecast), all of them are only too happy to build more - because consumers are going to pay for it all.
And the gas pipelines make the whole system work.
More info: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/07052026/duke-energy-north-carolina-enbridge-pipeline-opposition/
Why does Duke Energy spend so much money to influence North Carolina politics?
Basically: Duke Energy has a very safe, extremely lucrative business with no competition. Buying politicians is how the corporation protects their monopoly to keep extracting wealth from North Carolinians. ⚡️
Learn more about Carolina Forward here:
https://carolinaforward.org/about/
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Carolina Forward highlights: What's up with Duke Energy? (Original Post)
littlemissmartypants
14 hrs ago
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It's not just N.C. - More natural gas-fired generation being developed to power US data centers than California's entire
progree
13 hrs ago
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"Duke Energy has a very safe, extremely lucrative business with no competition."
OldBaldy1701E
9 hrs ago
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progree
(13,105 posts)1. It's not just N.C. - More natural gas-fired generation being developed to power US data centers than California's entire
More natural gas-fired generation being developed to power US data centers than California's entire generating capacity from all sources combined. (this is something I posted back in April)
Nearly 100 gigawatts ((100,000 MW -progree)) of natural-gas fired power are currently in development throughout the US solely to power data centers
This is a horrendous number. Catastrophic.
For scale, Hunter posted at about noon Pacific Time Thursday that California is using 27,000 MW of power (from all sources) at the moment. California is the 4th largest economy in the world, larger than Japan's.
In 2024, California had an in-state electric power generating capacity from all sources of 89,000 MW. -- https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/california-electricity-data/electric-generation-capacity-and-energy
About 39,000 of that is from fossil fuel (38,576 MW of natural gas and 351 MW of oil)
https://www.wired.com/story/a-new-google-funded-data-center-will-be-powered-by-a-massive-gas-plant/
As data center developers face lengthy wait times to connect to electricity grids and rising concerns over consumer electric bills, theyre increasingly turning to building their own energy, or whats known as behind-the-meter power. For these projects, gas is king; data centers are now driving a US boom in natural gas. Nearly 100 gigawatts ((100,000 MW -progree)) of natural-gas fired power are currently in development throughout the US solely to power data centers, according to research ( https://www.wired.com/story/data-centers-are-driving-a-us-gas-boom/ ) published by the nonprofit Global Energy Monitor in January.
Per the Global Energy Monitor research, there are at least 15 projects in development across the US that are larger than the Goodnight campus. Several of these projects have only just been announced or are still in the development phase, and have not yet filed air permits detailing just how much greenhouse gases they will emit. But the numbers that have been made public are jaw-dropping: . . . ((a couple examples given -progree))
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Another equivalence that might be more relatable --
The amount of natural-gas-fired generation in development just to power near-future U.S. data centers is equivalent, in greenhouse gas emissions, to adding 100 MILLION ADDITIONAL gasoline-fueled cars to the roads. All that mostly just for AI and cryptocurrency mining.
OldBaldy1701E
(11,725 posts)2. "Duke Energy has a very safe, extremely lucrative business with no competition."
And, what is being done about that?
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