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Poll: Do you approve of ICE activities related to illegal immigrants? (Original Post) UpInArms Jan 27 OP
RW talking point? "Illegal" is offensive ZDU Jan 27 #1
I merely used the poll question UpInArms Jan 27 #2
I feel you employed right-wing framing and talking points ZDU Jan 27 #3
I agree Abstractartist Jan 27 #4
The purpose of this is to get people to vote against ICE. Scrivener7 Jan 27 #5
Thank you, I respectfully disagree ZDU Jan 27 #6
You do you, buddy. Scrivener7 Jan 27 #7
Thank you, Scrivener7 ZDU Jan 27 #8
Why are is "illegal" offensive. Envirogal Jan 27 #9
I will not argue ZDU Jan 27 #10
Riddle me this... Envirogal Jan 27 #15
I trust you are wise Envirogal ZDU Jan 27 #20
it is completely legal to come to the U.S. for asylum mike_c Jan 27 #11
Thank you, mike_c! ZDU Jan 27 #13
Are all asylum seekers? Envirogal Wednesday #22
It's a shame this got hijacked. I hope people are hitting the link and voting against ICE. Scrivener7 Jan 27 #12
USA hijacked by MAGA... agreed ZDU Jan 27 #14
No. I'm saying this thread, which could have done something useful, was hijacked. Scrivener7 Jan 27 #16
Accusations ZDU Jan 27 #17
So you DO know that's what you did. Thanks for the confirmation. Not sure what your Scrivener7 Jan 27 #18
Respectful disagreement ZDU Jan 27 #19
Voted in poll Bettie Wednesday #21

ZDU

(1,160 posts)
1. RW talking point? "Illegal" is offensive
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:10 AM
Jan 27

Please reconsider using inflammatory terms to describe people who may be undocumented residents.

ZDU

(1,160 posts)
3. I feel you employed right-wing framing and talking points
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:26 AM
Jan 27

I fully understand that it is easy to 'cut and paste' content

Scrivener7

(58,872 posts)
5. The purpose of this is to get people to vote against ICE.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:38 AM
Jan 27

The OP has nothing to do with the verbiage.

Go vote no in the poll.

ZDU

(1,160 posts)
6. Thank you, I respectfully disagree
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:41 AM
Jan 27

It is my belief that the term 'Illegal' is frequently employed by the rightwing media as a divisive term to manufacture hate

Envirogal

(288 posts)
9. Why are is "illegal" offensive.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:45 AM
Jan 27

When many themselves will say they are here illegally? I am being genuine when I ask this. That has never made sense worrying about the semantics.

Alien is actually the offensive word because it dehumanizes and indicates they don’t belong. But being in this country illegally doesn’t seem like a terrible word and it’s always bothered me that my side gets so offended..

What this administration is doing by going after non-violent people with no criminal record (or very minor) is outrageous and anti-Christian and un-American. Especially those that are obeying the law through the proper protocol of immigration requirements (asylum, appearing at their hearings, being documented, etc?) is merely Steven Miller’s sick attempt to whiten this country and punish blue states.

That is what is offensive. The poll from my home state still has 40% in favor of this tyrannical policy after everything they have seen since Dear Leader invaded the streets of Los Angeles. This is not just offensive but it’s a cancer that conservatives created.

ZDU

(1,160 posts)
10. I will not argue
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:49 AM
Jan 27

Please employ the search engine (DuckDuckGo, Google, etc.) of your choice: Is the term "illegal" considered offensive?

Envirogal

(288 posts)
15. Riddle me this...
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 01:39 PM
Jan 27

Please define what is undocumented and how a person becomes undocumented?

You don’t want to argue this, even though I’m being sincere and wanted to know why you personally were so offended not what Google says. You obviously have a very strong opinion of this since you made such a point in this thread.

mike_c

(36,943 posts)
11. it is completely legal to come to the U.S. for asylum
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:32 AM
Jan 27

Most southern migrants are legal asylum seekers. Calling them illegals is indeed a right wing talking point so ubiquitous that it's broadly accepted as true, demonstrating that if you tell a lie often enough people will believe it without question.

If they were indeed illegal, there would be no reason to imprison them-- they could be deported under removal orders in short order. There would be no reason to offer them bribes to "self deport" ahead of any potential removal order, or to hold them until removal orders can be obtained. Under previous admins, asylum seekers were regularly given aid and immigration hearing orders by CBP, then released (because they're not illegal).

Envirogal

(288 posts)
22. Are all asylum seekers?
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 08:57 PM
Wednesday

I looked up the stats, and it says, according to the Google, (as I was told to seek), asylum seekers are only 5% at the border. Not sure what the total is for non-border incidents. So what do we call those not on the asylum path or not cleared to be here called?

I think the left and the right get it wrong and make it more challenging than it needs to be. That is why I do feel there needs to be a separate classification for those not playing by the rules and those that are following the process. Not alien, not illegal, not all are asylum claims, not really an immigrant because it blurs the line with those who are not under the radar. Undocumented are committing a civil crime but it’s not a serious one like a felony so that also needs nuance.

Until I hear a better idea, i think I will stick with “immigrant(s) here illegally”. That provides separation because there are plenty of legal immigrants that deserve to be acknowledged and not lumped in with illegal activity. That would be offensive to paint that broad brush.

But I am glad you were at least trying to answer.

Scrivener7

(58,872 posts)
12. It's a shame this got hijacked. I hope people are hitting the link and voting against ICE.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 12:02 PM
Jan 27

I think if people see their opinion is not shared by the majority, it puts a chink in their faith in that opinion.

Especially maga kinds of people.

Bettie

(19,445 posts)
21. Voted in poll
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 12:13 AM
Wednesday

running 56% No...so, that's good.

Sorry that someone has decided that listing the actual question asked is some nefarious plot on your part! I guess it takes all kinds....

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