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In It to Win It

(9,857 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 03:28 AM Dec 29

Democrats have a Florida problem

POLITICO


MIAMI — National Democrats are grappling with an identity crisis. It’s even worse in Florida.

For those who’d been in denial, the 2024 election proclaimed Florida as a red state. The party got romped up and down the ticket, and many of the same factors that affected the rest of the U.S. were magnified here: Voters were deeply concerned about immigration, inflation and the economy, and Republicans received strong support from Hispanics.

Yet Florida is poised to become even more powerful, both in President-elect Donald Trump’s Washington and in the national electorate in the decade to come as the state grows.

If national Democrats ignore the trends in Florida then they may very well be writing their own obituary, party strategists in the state say.

“If you want to elect presidents from 2032 on, we have to start winning states that we are losing,” said Steve Schale, a Democratic strategist who successfully helped former President Barack Obama win Florida twice. National Democrats would need to invest in Florida and other southern states because it would otherwise take a “crazy set of circumstances to win Congress or the presidency,” he added.

Population growth leading up to 2030, when the next census and reapportionment take place, could deliver even more congressional seats — and Electoral College votes — to Florida, Texas and other Republican-friendly states, while Democratic-leaning behemoths of New York and California are poised to lose ground. The bottom line? It may not be possible for Democrats in future presidential cycles to get to 270 electoral votes without reversing their fortune in the South.
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Democrats have a Florida problem (Original Post) In It to Win It Dec 29 OP
Please stop moving from New York and California. jimfields33 Dec 29 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems Dec 29 #3
Many transplants come here because they like DeSatan and his heavy-handed authoritarianism. Timeflyer Dec 29 #2
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
1. Please stop moving from New York and California.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 09:31 AM
Dec 29

These are very important states with big electoral numbers for us.

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Timeflyer

(2,767 posts)
2. Many transplants come here because they like DeSatan and his heavy-handed authoritarianism.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 10:10 AM
Dec 29

They'll say it proudly, and their ranks are growing here like the population of Burmese pythons in the Everglades. "The taxes back there," they'll say, and "the liberals are ruining (fill in the blank) back home." (Many don't consider Florida "home," just a cheap place with no snow, so they don't care if the schools, and public services they rely on go to hell here, and the roadways are paved with radioactive filth, as long as the A/C in their house stays on and the commie libs are kept in their place.)

Ranting again. Anyway, FL may be lost to Dems in the big elections, but we keep trying, esp. on the local level.

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