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Related: About this forumKrampuslauft part one
These creatures accompany St. Nikolas to punish naughty children before Christmas


Got a bad one!






Drum
(10,538 posts)We get them every year about this time. Third Advent Sunday in Munich.
Diamond_Dog
(39,586 posts)Not the kind of thing you want to see in a dark alley,
or if you're a child who has been bad....
GiqueCee
(3,242 posts)... with three pairs of horns! Damn! He UGLY!
3Hotdogs
(14,945 posts)rsdsharp
(11,721 posts)those things beat the hell out of a lump of coal.
1WorldHope
(1,827 posts)How beautifully frightening. They really used to scare the shit out their kids back in the day.
Old Crank
(6,579 posts)So south Germany, Austria, northern Italy and parts of Switzerland.
They would steal children in a sack and beat them.
How many and how often I don't know.
If you read the original Brothers Grimm tales it wasn't the Disneyfied versions.
ShazzieB
(22,109 posts)Forget Jack Skellingon and Oogie Boogie. Those are just cartoon characters. Germany has the real thing!
What a spectacle! Great pics, but I'm honestly not sorry I wasn't there.These guys are terrifying!
Old Crank
(6,579 posts)A lot of hats pulled down and lower legs swatted with the branches.
Cirsium
(3,277 posts)Based on a tradition of European art, it is my estimation that Krampus serves not only the role of anti-St. Nicholas, but also serves as an anti-Christmas and antisemitic representation of Jews and their relationship to the devil. I will pull art that depicts Krampus and children as well as images of Jews and children to compare their physiognomic features. Krampus serves as a phenomenological other to the beloved St. Nicholas figure, donning common antisemitic and anti-Jewish features. Krampus agitated European antisemitism during times of Jewish hatred, strife, and Christian malevolence towards their Abrahamic sibling.
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The physiognomic and stereotypically Jewish markings in art allow us to distinguish those who are Jewish from those who are not. Over time, these crude stereotypes morphed into hostility; a hostility that emerged most evidently in the mid to late twelfth century, according to scholar and author Bernard Starr. Stereotypes took the form of clothing with assigned colors, Jews with bags of money, or more crudely, Jews analogous to frogs, swollen with greed. However, one of the more peculiar and malicious forms of stereotypical imagery depicts the Jew or Jews worshipping the devil. The affiliation with the devil often places the Jew in hell, alongside the devil or smaller demons, and sometimes with horns, a goatee, or goat-like features. Our Krampus Creature is no exception.
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Krampus is accepted, much like todays Santa Claus, to be mythic. Then why do the artistic themes still take center stage? Why does a Krampus illustrated in 2018 look like the Krampus on an Austrian postcard? The caricature of the Jew consistently has been drawn, painted, or illustrated with a hooked nose, malicious features, or even horns. Krampus has similarly and consistently been the horned, devilish, child-snatching, malicious figurethe imagined non-human counterpart to the Christian holy man St. Nicholas. Krampus as Jewish, or as the anti-Christian, not only creates consistency between artistic depictions over time, but he fits the mold of how the Jew was imagined, who the Jew was understood to be against, and what the Jew supposedly looked like, in opposition to his Christian, Abrahamic brothers and sisters.
https://sacredmattersmagazine.com/the-devils-in-the-details-the-krampus-conundrum/
Old Crank
(6,579 posts)From the Alpine regions in Europe.
It seems that Christians in Europe who have more than a 1000 year history of antisemitism misappropriated the pagan tales/myths to fit their own needs.
George McGovern
(10,567 posts)(Didn't know you were an accomplished street photographer!)
Old Crank
(6,579 posts)It is not my comfort zone. You don't get to see my electron recycling bin... Thanks to digital, I'll be sharing 16 out of about 300. I find it really an art to get street, candid pictures of any quality consistently. For this I used the Winogrand method, shoot and shoot.
I've been shooting this for about 8 years now. I don't get to move around like the credentialed photos. I have been working to get a decent location, I like the outside of a bend in the route and get there a bit early. This year I lugged a step stool. I would like to be able to shoot up at some and down a bit but in the mob it is hard.
I also tried to get shots showing more direct interaction with children. Not successful this year.
The next group will all be taken with flash.