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catbyte

(39,500 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 10:21 PM Friday

Scientists Thought Ravens Followed Wolves for Food. They Were Wrong. Ravens Predict Them

Note: I wasn't sure where to put this, so if it's in the wrong place, let me know.

Tibi Puiu
July 2, 2026

A new study suggests that is only a small part of the story. By tracking ravens, wolves, and cougars across Yellowstone for two and a half years, researchers found that ravens rarely followed wolves over long distances. Instead, the birds returned again and again to areas where wolf kills were more likely to happen.

The findings suggest that ravens use their particularly remarkable memory and navigation to search for carrion across vast landscapes. Rather than acting as passive followers of predators, they appear to build a mental map of where predation is most likely to happen, and subsequently provide them with food.

“They can fly six hours non-stop, straight to a kill site,” said Dr. Matthias Loretto, the study’s first author.

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Researchers found that ravens were not usually tailing predators across the landscape. Instead, they seemed to remember where carcasses tended to cluster in their vicinity and returned to these regularly. The birds were so good at this that when they appear at a kill site, it almost seems like clockwork.

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https://www.zmescience.com/ecology/animals-ecology/ravens-predict-wolves/

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Scientists Thought Ravens Followed Wolves for Food. They Were Wrong. Ravens Predict Them (Original Post) catbyte Friday OP
I love ravens....they are beautiful, sentient birds. pdxflyboy Friday #1
I think they are more intelligent than we know and are just now learning that. They are very adaptable to environments Deuxcents Friday #2
Don't all birds return to eating spots? They all find their way back to my house. dem4decades Friday #3
They're Portals of Death! Baitball Blogger Saturday #4
The wolves and ravens are following the same map. hunter Saturday #5

Deuxcents

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2. I think they are more intelligent than we know and are just now learning that. They are very adaptable to environments
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 10:42 PM
Friday

hunter

(40,979 posts)
5. The wolves and ravens are following the same map.
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 04:46 PM
Saturday

The wolves are thinking, "That's a good place to hunt when conditions are like this."

The ravens are thinking, "That's a likely place for the wolves to hunt when conditions are like this."

Both species are capable of some theory of mind, able to surmise what another individual is thinking, so there may be a common understanding of the hunt between them.

The wolves are thinking, "The ravens recall this as a good place to hunt."

The ravens are thinking, "The wolves recall this a good place to hunt."

Not to say they are using words to think.

For too long it was the fashion to reject any attribution of human thoughts and emotions to animals, calling it projection which in truth it sometimes was. But mostly it was a denial that we humans too are animals.

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