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NNadir

(38,889 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 08:04 AM 10 hrs ago

My son got ripped off for $4000 and made me proud of him.

My son shares a house with some graduate students, one of whom is Chinese. He is responsible for collecting the rent for the landlord from each of the sublease holders.

The Chinese graduate student may have lost her stipend - I think she may be a marginal graduate student - for whatever reason, has stopped paying rent, while saying she'd get money from her family in China but it didn't happen.

The lease is coming to an end - my wife and I told him not to have taken responsibility for collecting rent - and my son is not renewing but is moving in with his girlfriend. His girlfriend thinks he should take the woman to court.

My son is concerned the student may have overstayed her Visa and if taken to court may end up in a detention camp. He told us he could not live with himself if that happened over four grand. He's going to try to get her to pay, but if she doesn't he'll eat it and chalk it up to experience and being the victim of a petty crime.

I'm proud of the way his mother raised him.

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My son got ripped off for $4000 and made me proud of him. (Original Post) NNadir 10 hrs ago OP
You raised him well NNadir, he knows right from wrong. KS Toronado 10 hrs ago #1
You and your wife did a great job rearing him. niyad 10 hrs ago #2
I sincerely hope the person comes through and pays the rent. hamsterjill 10 hrs ago #3
You should be malaise 9 hrs ago #4
Heh. Four thousand dollars. 'Petty theft'. For some, that is more than has been seen in years. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 9 hrs ago #5
It's a fair amount of money for him to be sure but he... NNadir 9 hrs ago #8
Good job, Mom Icanthinkformyself 9 hrs ago #6
His compassion for his fellow human being is top notch - love how you raised him! n/t iluvtennis 9 hrs ago #7
What a fine young man! MLAA 8 hrs ago #9
Giving to others is wonderful but so is accepting responsibility. That woman failed to accept Wonder Why 7 hrs ago #10
In case you didn't read the whole post... ShazzieB 3 hrs ago #23
Much more understanding than I am. I'd be wondering how many others she has and/or will rip off! Floyd R. Turbo 7 hrs ago #11
I understand your point but my son's actions are not meant to sustain a system of justice... NNadir 6 hrs ago #12
What hamsterjill said in post #3 -The universe... 3catwoman3 6 hrs ago #13
I hope your son tells the landlord that this is happening FakeNoose 6 hrs ago #14
You have that right. The landlord is a creep. NNadir 6 hrs ago #15
Sounds possibly unsafe... if the landlord reported it. live love laugh 6 hrs ago #16
The landlord could be a MAGAt and turn her in! Wednesdays 5 hrs ago #20
Well no, NNadir explained (post above) that the landlord is also an immigrant herself FakeNoose 5 hrs ago #22
Absolutely the right answer. Pinback 6 hrs ago #17
Well, Jesus was sold out for thirty pieces of silver Wednesdays 5 hrs ago #18
Your son is a good man... LuckyCharms 5 hrs ago #19
Sometimes It's Hard Coolgoober 5 hrs ago #21
speaking as a college instructor (this might not be a popular comment) cab67 3 hrs ago #24
I believe your son is a rich man. Dave in VA 1 hr ago #25
He da man ! CincyDem 1 hr ago #26
What a wonderful human being ! chouchou 51 min ago #27

hamsterjill

(17,968 posts)
3. I sincerely hope the person comes through and pays the rent.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:01 AM
10 hrs ago

I like it when nice people don't get ripped off. It is very admirable that he's willing to lose the money, and I salute him (and you for raising him that way!) for being caring and kind and willing to help.

All the more reason that I hope the Chinese student can come up with the money so that a good person willing to do a good thing gets a happy ending.

The universe is a better place when people are kind.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,836 posts)
5. Heh. Four thousand dollars. 'Petty theft'. For some, that is more than has been seen in years. (n/t)
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:14 AM
9 hrs ago


NNadir

(38,889 posts)
8. It's a fair amount of money for him to be sure but he...
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:22 AM
9 hrs ago

...has a good job, at least for someone who majored in art.

He lived with us for about five years after graduating and we didn't charge him anything for doing so, and thus was able to build a significant savings - which was our intent.

It certainly hurts, but if it didn't hurt, it wouldn't strike me as beautiful as it is.

Elon Musk makes probably 50 times more in the lifetime of a fart but I would be disgraced were Musk in my family.

Wonder Why

(7,413 posts)
10. Giving to others is wonderful but so is accepting responsibility. That woman failed to accept
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:07 AM
7 hrs ago

responsibility for her actions and sometimes enabling that is not helpful. She's old enough to know that. He should talk to her and get her to own up to her obligations. She could sign a loan agreement. Even if she fails to follow through, that will remind her of the fact that she did that.

She should be able to pay back the loan as she's got an education.

ShazzieB

(23,099 posts)
23. In case you didn't read the whole post...
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 03:44 PM
3 hrs ago

This was down near the bottom:

My son is concerned the student may have overstayed her Visa and if taken to court may end up in a detention camp. He told us he could not live with himself if that happened over four grand. He's going to try to get her to pay....


Please note that it says, "He's going to try to get her to pay," as you said he should. In the meantime, he doesn't want to do anything that might lead to her ending up in one of those hellhole detention camps. I commend him for that. NOBODY deserves that. Even violent criminals deserve humane Treatment, and NO ONE is getting that under ICE.

Not to mention, the door would be slammed on any possibility of him getting his money back if those goons were to take her into custody.

Floyd R. Turbo

(33,673 posts)
11. Much more understanding than I am. I'd be wondering how many others she has and/or will rip off!
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:27 AM
7 hrs ago

But that’s jaded me!

NNadir

(38,889 posts)
12. I understand your point but my son's actions are not meant to sustain a system of justice...
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:17 PM
6 hrs ago

...or to erode the need for it, but rather to resist a system of injustice. It is not that the crime is inconsequential but that the possible consequences are potentially inappropriately draconian. The punishment would be inappropriate for the crime.

We left debtors prisons behind centuries ago.

Interestingly my son spent a summer in China on an art grant, and was impressed by the order of the country as well as the kindness of the citizens and the ancient beauty of the culture.

If she goes back to China and lives as she is doing here, she may face consequences appropriate to her offense.

I don't mean this as an endorsement of the Chinese dictatorship, but not all facets are without merit.

3catwoman3

(30,232 posts)
13. What hamsterjill said in post #3 -The universe...
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:18 PM
6 hrs ago

...is a better place when people are kind.

FakeNoose

(43,104 posts)
14. I hope your son tells the landlord that this is happening
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:25 PM
6 hrs ago

It may turn out that the landlord is an understanding person, and maybe he/she will cover your son for the loss. You never know until you try, and June is probably the last month for the lease anyway.

You should be proud of your son because he's sticking up for someone who could be in a bad situation. However the landlord is running a business, and he/she has been using your son as an unpaid employee. The landlord has no right to expect that your son would be financially responsible to cover for any other person who happens to be renting.

The landlord is taking advantage of your son's honesty.

NNadir

(38,889 posts)
15. You have that right. The landlord is a creep.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:29 PM
6 hrs ago

Interestingly she's always putting pressure on the tenants to join her church.

She is an immigrant herself but that has nothing to do with anything.

I have told my son to let the landlord know, whatever that involves.

Wednesdays

(23,496 posts)
20. The landlord could be a MAGAt and turn her in!
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 01:20 PM
5 hrs ago

That would defeat the purpose of the good deed described in the OP.

FakeNoose

(43,104 posts)
22. Well no, NNadir explained (post above) that the landlord is also an immigrant herself
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 01:47 PM
5 hrs ago

We have no way to know for sure, but I'd assume that this landlord isn't MAGA. However she is taking advantage of the grad students, especially NNadir's son.

Pinback

(13,732 posts)
17. Absolutely the right answer.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:31 PM
6 hrs ago

Kindness is the most important of the virtues.

Obviously we don’t want our kids going through life as doormats, but that’s not what this is. It would be terrible to lose the $4k, but it would be so much worse not to be able to look himself in the mirror.

Wednesdays

(23,496 posts)
18. Well, Jesus was sold out for thirty pieces of silver
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 01:15 PM
5 hrs ago

I think your son did the right thing.

cab67

(3,932 posts)
24. speaking as a college instructor (this might not be a popular comment)
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 03:48 PM
3 hrs ago

Your son did, indeed act well. It's a good reflection on his parents!

That said - if this student really were "marginal" and had lost her stipend, keeping her in the US might not be the kindest outcome. It might be better for her to go home and plan another path.

I suppose she could do so from the US, but if she doesn't have a visa, it'll be difficult for her to be admitted to another university.

I am NOT saying she should have been deported. She should be allowed to return home on her own. That's why I really appreciate what your son did.

I am also NOT saying everyone who's overstayed their visa should be shipped straight back home.

But I've seen marginal students stick around long after the soprano has sung, and it doesn't end well.

Of course, it's not your son's place to counsel her in this respect. This is between her, her family, and any support network she has in the US.

Dave in VA

(2,295 posts)
25. I believe your son is a rich man.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 05:37 PM
1 hr ago

Not in wealth, but in character.

Well done mom and dad.

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