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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsMy son got ripped off for $4000 and made me proud of him.
My son shares a house with some graduate students, one of whom is Chinese. He is responsible for collecting the rent for the landlord from each of the sublease holders.
The Chinese graduate student may have lost her stipend - I think she may be a marginal graduate student - for whatever reason, has stopped paying rent, while saying she'd get money from her family in China but it didn't happen.
The lease is coming to an end - my wife and I told him not to have taken responsibility for collecting rent - and my son is not renewing but is moving in with his girlfriend. His girlfriend thinks he should take the woman to court.
My son is concerned the student may have overstayed her Visa and if taken to court may end up in a detention camp. He told us he could not live with himself if that happened over four grand. He's going to try to get her to pay, but if she doesn't he'll eat it and chalk it up to experience and being the victim of a petty crime.
I'm proud of the way his mother raised him.
KS Toronado
(24,217 posts)niyad
(135,448 posts)hamsterjill
(17,968 posts)I like it when nice people don't get ripped off. It is very admirable that he's willing to lose the money, and I salute him (and you for raising him that way!) for being caring and kind and willing to help.
All the more reason that I hope the Chinese student can come up with the money so that a good person willing to do a good thing gets a happy ending.
The universe is a better place when people are kind.
malaise
(299,752 posts)😀
OldBaldy1701E
(11,836 posts)NNadir
(38,889 posts)...has a good job, at least for someone who majored in art.
He lived with us for about five years after graduating and we didn't charge him anything for doing so, and thus was able to build a significant savings - which was our intent.
It certainly hurts, but if it didn't hurt, it wouldn't strike me as beautiful as it is.
Elon Musk makes probably 50 times more in the lifetime of a fart but I would be disgraced were Musk in my family.
Icanthinkformyself
(445 posts)You taught him well to understand the true value of money.
iluvtennis
(21,567 posts)MLAA
(19,863 posts)I am proud of him also❤️
Wonder Why
(7,413 posts)responsibility for her actions and sometimes enabling that is not helpful. She's old enough to know that. He should talk to her and get her to own up to her obligations. She could sign a loan agreement. Even if she fails to follow through, that will remind her of the fact that she did that.
She should be able to pay back the loan as she's got an education.
ShazzieB
(23,099 posts)This was down near the bottom:
Please note that it says, "He's going to try to get her to pay," as you said he should. In the meantime, he doesn't want to do anything that might lead to her ending up in one of those hellhole detention camps. I commend him for that. NOBODY deserves that. Even violent criminals deserve humane Treatment, and NO ONE is getting that under ICE.
Not to mention, the door would be slammed on any possibility of him getting his money back if those goons were to take her into custody.
Floyd R. Turbo
(33,673 posts)But thats jaded me!
NNadir
(38,889 posts)...or to erode the need for it, but rather to resist a system of injustice. It is not that the crime is inconsequential but that the possible consequences are potentially inappropriately draconian. The punishment would be inappropriate for the crime.
We left debtors prisons behind centuries ago.
Interestingly my son spent a summer in China on an art grant, and was impressed by the order of the country as well as the kindness of the citizens and the ancient beauty of the culture.
If she goes back to China and lives as she is doing here, she may face consequences appropriate to her offense.
I don't mean this as an endorsement of the Chinese dictatorship, but not all facets are without merit.
3catwoman3
(30,232 posts)...is a better place when people are kind.
FakeNoose
(43,104 posts)It may turn out that the landlord is an understanding person, and maybe he/she will cover your son for the loss. You never know until you try, and June is probably the last month for the lease anyway.
You should be proud of your son because he's sticking up for someone who could be in a bad situation. However the landlord is running a business, and he/she has been using your son as an unpaid employee. The landlord has no right to expect that your son would be financially responsible to cover for any other person who happens to be renting.
The landlord is taking advantage of your son's honesty.
NNadir
(38,889 posts)Interestingly she's always putting pressure on the tenants to join her church.
She is an immigrant herself but that has nothing to do with anything.
I have told my son to let the landlord know, whatever that involves.
live love laugh
(16,564 posts)Wednesdays
(23,496 posts)That would defeat the purpose of the good deed described in the OP.
FakeNoose
(43,104 posts)We have no way to know for sure, but I'd assume that this landlord isn't MAGA. However she is taking advantage of the grad students, especially NNadir's son.
Pinback
(13,732 posts)Kindness is the most important of the virtues.
Obviously we dont want our kids going through life as doormats, but thats not what this is. It would be terrible to lose the $4k, but it would be so much worse not to be able to look himself in the mirror.
Wednesdays
(23,496 posts)I think your son did the right thing.
LuckyCharms
(23,400 posts)with good parents.
Coolgoober
(443 posts)To do the right thing.
cab67
(3,932 posts)Your son did, indeed act well. It's a good reflection on his parents!
That said - if this student really were "marginal" and had lost her stipend, keeping her in the US might not be the kindest outcome. It might be better for her to go home and plan another path.
I suppose she could do so from the US, but if she doesn't have a visa, it'll be difficult for her to be admitted to another university.
I am NOT saying she should have been deported. She should be allowed to return home on her own. That's why I really appreciate what your son did.
I am also NOT saying everyone who's overstayed their visa should be shipped straight back home.
But I've seen marginal students stick around long after the soprano has sung, and it doesn't end well.
Of course, it's not your son's place to counsel her in this respect. This is between her, her family, and any support network she has in the US.
Dave in VA
(2,295 posts)Not in wealth, but in character.
Well done mom and dad.