It can take a few days to go through. They're faster at taking money than giving it.

I'll give it a few more days.

PayPal account when I learned that Thiel was the co founder. I hated it anyway. Always a problem. I don’t trust it

If you are concerned about Trump-enabling cretins STILL involved in their commercial creations, it would be Bezos and Amazon.

Love it or hate it, using PayPal limits how many places have my credit card and bank accounts. Having been victim to a hack in the past, I appreciate that fact.

VENMO, on the other hand... A horrific threat and ongoing risk.

connected to Thiel in any way is poison to me. You think he doesn’t still profit from it? I detest him and do NOT trust PayPal from experience

Most banks offer secure ways to shop online with a credit card

Whether Bezos' Amazon or any other online retailer, these cretins are invested in everything. It is foolish to think otherwise. They are getting your money regardless. And banks in general are the worst crooks and the least likely to fully back you if a problem develops. Credit Unions only, for me-- for decades now...

Never happened before, to me or to that particular credit Union. Everything is back to normal, except there are now lots of hoops I have to jump through in order to log in--which is really how it should be,

just FYI

But I don’t have a PayPal account and never will

You said anything connected

I don't mean people who use it. I mean people who run it.

That may be an option you have to select/deselect.

It takes a few days until it shows in my bank account.

Had money stolen

And haven't gone near it in years. I don't need anyone stealing what little we have. It was creepy