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lees1975

(7,214 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:35 AM 17 hrs ago

On the eve of the Southern Baptist Convention, the waning power of conservative Evangelicals shows itself.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2026/06/on-eve-of-southern-baptist-convention.html

The moribund bureaucracy of the Southern Baptist Convention has failed, over the past five or six years, to follow directives given from the floor of the convention by the messengers to find ways to deal with the sexual abuse problem that exists among its pastors, church staff and missions personnel. The problem is larger than was originally exposed by the Abuse of Faith series in the Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Express News in 2019.

One good thing that happened, when an independent investigator was hired, was the resignation of a number of executive committee members who were upset about not being able to control and strong-arm the investigation. Some baggage that needed to be shed was gone as a result of that. But when it has come to really essential things that needed to be done as a result of the manner in which this scandal was handled by SBC bureaucrats, including actually giving the appearance of being Christian when it came to the known victims of abuse, nothing has happened. Victims, in fact, have been further victimized by the harsh and unforgiving manner reflected by the convention's national leadership.

The bureaucrats have, in fact, hidden behind what they claim is a core doctrinal principle of the Southern Baptist Convention and the way it is structured as a denomination, and that is the independence and autonomy of the local church. Churches affiliated with the SBC are independent and autonomous, according to the polity that has developed among Baptists, therefore, the denomination cannot assume a measure of ecclesiastical authority to put measures in place which prevent sexual predator pastors and church staff from moving to another church. And they can't seem to find a way to establish a database that will provide churches with a list of adjudicated offenders.


Messengers to this year's Southern Baptist Convention will be voting on a third proposal to change the denomination's constitution to disfellowship, a.k.a. "kick out," churches which have a female pastor, either as a senior pastor preaching from the pulpit, or on their staff in a role with the title "pastor" defining their duties. This is a blatant violation of the independence and autonomy of the local church, which, according to the Biblical interpretation of church polity Baptists have held for centuries, is not consistent scripturally.

So they won't interfere by helping churches avoid calling a sexual predator with a criminal record as their pastor, but they will tell their churches to hit the exit door if they decide to call a woman to serve as a pastor. It can't be possible to demonstrate more hypocrisy than this
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On the eve of the Southern Baptist Convention, the waning power of conservative Evangelicals shows itself. (Original Post) lees1975 17 hrs ago OP
my grandmother always said UpInArms 16 hrs ago #1
Your Grandmother had a way with words irisblue 15 hrs ago #2
Well, the current... GiqueCee 15 hrs ago #3
Kick. N/T Upthevibe 15 hrs ago #4
Were all the crystal palace type charlatans part of the convention? mdbl 14 hrs ago #5
Hypocrisy is the religion of Evangelical Southern Baptists. Period. ChicagoTeamster 13 hrs ago #6
They elected a more conservative President who has downplayed and ignored the sexual abuse crisis. lees1975 5 hrs ago #7

GiqueCee

(4,934 posts)
3. Well, the current...
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 01:25 PM
15 hrs ago

... religious community, regardless of denomination, has a grotesque overabundance of the latter.

mdbl

(8,849 posts)
5. Were all the crystal palace type charlatans part of the convention?
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 02:18 PM
14 hrs ago

I figured they didn't need it.

lees1975

(7,214 posts)
7. They elected a more conservative President who has downplayed and ignored the sexual abuse crisis.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:35 PM
5 hrs ago

Willy Rice, pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater, Florida, was elected President of the SBC. Rice has claimed that the denomination's sexual abuse crisis is more hoax than reality, and claimed that the denomination has followed culture more than the Bible in recent years.

Documentation of the sexual abuse crisis has revealed that the expose done by the Houston Chronicle about six years ago merely scratched the surface of a real crisis by exposing a few hundred cases. But it is easy, in a Baptist denomination where churches are independent and autonomous, and don't have to follow the recommendations of denominational leaders if they're not going to be enforced, as these aren't, to hide, and to continue to perpetuate abuse, moving from church to church.

Claiming that the denomination's leaders have followed culture more than the Bible is an old fundamentalist cliche. What that means is that there's been a trend away from hard line, right wing extremism and they think the way to make things work again is to become more hard line, and less Christian. They've lost 25% of their membership in a decade, and the average annual membership loss is more than 300,000. A hard line fundamentalist approach isn't going to work.

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