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Wonder Why

(7,236 posts) Thu Apr 30, 2026, 09:33 AM Apr 30

Legal filing raises questions about who shot Secret Service officer at press dinner

Source: Reuters

Summary

Court filing omits claim Allen shot Secret Service officer, contrasting with earlier official statements

Security footage reviewed by Washington Post shows no evidence Allen fired at officers

Source of officer's gunshot wound remains unclear

April 29 (Reuters) - A U.S. government court filing on Wednesday raised questions about officials’ initial assertions that a gunman shot a Secret Service officer while allegedly attempting to assassinate President Donald Trump at the White House Correspondents' Association dinner.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/legal-filing-raises-questions-about-who-shot-secret-service-officer-press-dinner-2026-04-29/

Lies, Lies and more lies.

Now, after the false claims about the "gunman" shooting a Secret Service officer, they omitted any mention of that in their filing in court.

All those lies they told the media. Not one word about "We made a mistake", much less than "We lied because we wanted to hype this to the press so we made up false stories".

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Legal filing raises questions about who shot Secret Service officer at press dinner (Original Post) Wonder Why Apr 30 OP

Looks like some of those "conspiracy theories" some folks here were were going on about aren't just theories. sop Apr 30 #1

What theory does this relate to? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 30 #5

Look at the threads where posters shared their theories about this incident and were called conspiracists. sop Apr 30 #6

Please answer what I asked, not give just a general "I'm right, but won't say how" reply (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 30 #16

Look at the threads yourself. Answer your own questions. I'm not going to waste my time looking for you. sop Apr 30 #18

Please answer what I asked, not give just a general "I'm right, but won't say how" reply (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 30 #19

"What theory does this relate to? (nt)" Is that really a question? sop Apr 30 #20

Yes. muriel_volestrangler Apr 30 #21

Your repeated demands for answers to a nonsensical question are disruptive. sop Apr 30 #22

I'm disrupting nothing. muriel_volestrangler Apr 30 #24

Yep. One of the other officers shot the guy in the bulletproof jacket Ritabert Apr 30 #2

Another SS with an ankle gun, shooting to wound to justify shooting dead Allen. Weird all those shots and Allen ... marble falls Apr 30 #3

Let's be clear that the goalposts already moved once Prairie Gates Apr 30 #4

And, even if someone did think to fire one or both of his weapons dickthegrouch Apr 30 #8

We will not learn that from this admin. Bayard Apr 30 #13

For all the hyping, that shooting really didn't gain Trump much in the way of support. Baitball Blogger Apr 30 #7

Re WP analysis: S S agent with clear shot misses "shooter", hits S S agent. Wounded S S agent fires at least once, flashman13 Apr 30 #9

Maybe spend the ballroom money on some firearms training? sop Apr 30 #11

What a novel idea. Spend tax payer money on something meaningful. flashman13 Apr 30 #12

"WTF, Being able to shoot is a big part of the job description." LudwigPastorius Apr 30 #23

Have you seen the video? The first shot was a close range head on shot. The second shot was at 10 feet max. flashman13 Apr 30 #25

Friendly Fire purr-rat beauty Apr 30 #10

Just another PR stunt, and Epstein cover Bayard Apr 30 #14

They got their lie into the narrative. It will be impossible to correct in the public mind. ShazamIam Apr 30 #15

As our Attorney General said: "Sometimes you find the bullet, and sometimes it just disappears." TheRickles Apr 30 #17

Eff up cover up Faux pas Apr 30 #26

Carol Leonig stated that Allen tripped and that's why they were able to stop him. Katinfl Apr 30 #27

sop

(19,359 posts)

1. Looks like some of those "conspiracy theories" some folks here were were going on about aren't just theories.

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 09:38 AM

Apr 30

muriel_volestrangler

(106,609 posts)

5. What theory does this relate to? (nt)

Reply to sop (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:14 AM

Apr 30

sop

(19,359 posts)

6. Look at the threads where posters shared their theories about this incident and were called conspiracists.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:27 AM

Apr 30

muriel_volestrangler

(106,609 posts)

16. Please answer what I asked, not give just a general "I'm right, but won't say how" reply (nt)

Reply to sop (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 12:11 PM

Apr 30

sop

(19,359 posts)

18. Look at the threads yourself. Answer your own questions. I'm not going to waste my time looking for you.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 12:30 PM

Apr 30

muriel_volestrangler

(106,609 posts)

19. Please answer what I asked, not give just a general "I'm right, but won't say how" reply (nt)

Reply to sop (Reply #18)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 01:12 PM

Apr 30

sop

(19,359 posts)

20. "What theory does this relate to? (nt)" Is that really a question?

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 01:25 PM

Apr 30

muriel_volestrangler

(106,609 posts)

21. Yes.

Reply to sop (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:11 PM

Apr 30

sop

(19,359 posts)

22. Your repeated demands for answers to a nonsensical question are disruptive.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:14 PM

Apr 30

I stated my view on the OP. If you disagree, fine....share your own view. Leave it at that.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,609 posts)

24. I'm disrupting nothing.

Reply to sop (Reply #22)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:23 PM

Apr 30

I read some conspiracy theories about the incident; none involved "he didn't fire". They're about "it was staged". The two aren't obviously connected. You think they are, but won't say how.

My view is that the security would have been justified in opening fire even if he hadn't; it's like the invasion of Congress on Jan 6th; a breach of the point by someone intent on getting access to many people who were being protected, and who are likely targets of political violence, justifies potentially lethal use of force.

Your view is "some conspiracy theories" are now not "theories". But you won't say which. And are you saying "they are true"? If so, in what way?

Ritabert

(2,618 posts)

2. Yep. One of the other officers shot the guy in the bulletproof jacket

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 09:57 AM

Apr 30

marble falls

(72,550 posts)

3. Another SS with an ankle gun, shooting to wound to justify shooting dead Allen. Weird all those shots and Allen ...

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:01 AM

Apr 30

... never fired and never got hit. TACO heads the Gang That Can't Shoot Straight. Let alone make a plot work.

Prairie Gates

(8,479 posts)

4. Let's be clear that the goalposts already moved once

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:10 AM

Apr 30

The initial objection was that he hadn't shot the officer. One of the usual Gamers came around to show all the credulous libs that he was charged (or perhaps seemed to have been) with discharging a firearm, which is an altogether different thing. This was supposed to be great own, but it was at best non-responsive to the question. Now the question is did he even discharge a weapon. It seems clear that federal prosecutors don't believe he actually hit anyone. But did either of his weapons even fire?

dickthegrouch

(4,669 posts)

8. And, even if someone did think to fire one or both of his weapons

Reply to Prairie Gates (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:41 AM

Apr 30

Whose hands is the GSR actually on?

Bayard

(30,312 posts)

13. We will not learn that from this admin.

Reply to dickthegrouch (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:57 AM

Apr 30

Baitball Blogger

(52,729 posts)

7. For all the hyping, that shooting really didn't gain Trump much in the way of support.

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:32 AM

Apr 30

flashman13

(2,569 posts)

9. Re WP analysis: S S agent with clear shot misses "shooter", hits S S agent. Wounded S S agent fires at least once,

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:18 AM

Apr 30

again misses "shooter".

WTF, Being able to shoot is a big part of the job description. That poor quality marksmanship is simple incompetence.

Everything Trump touches turns to poo. R I P S S!

sop

(19,359 posts)

11. Maybe spend the ballroom money on some firearms training?

Reply to flashman13 (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:43 AM

Apr 30

flashman13

(2,569 posts)

12. What a novel idea. Spend tax payer money on something meaningful.

Reply to sop (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:45 AM

Apr 30

LudwigPastorius

(15,023 posts)

23. "WTF, Being able to shoot is a big part of the job description."

Reply to flashman13 (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:23 PM

Apr 30

The guy appeared to be running at top speed.

I don't care if you're Deadeye Dick, in real life it's hard to hit someone moving that fast.

flashman13

(2,569 posts)

25. Have you seen the video? The first shot was a close range head on shot. The second shot was at 10 feet max.

Reply to LudwigPastorius (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:42 PM

Apr 30

Deadeye Dick might have missed, but there is no excuse for a well trained marksman to miss either shot. Remember, the Secret Service is supposed to be the best of the best.

purr-rat beauty

(1,464 posts)

10. Friendly Fire

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:20 AM

Apr 30

This is why felonious trump lumped the left, media, all that he hates and wants to hurt with this suspect.

Get ahead of the findings and control the narrative which his followers will lap up like a cat and antifreeze.

We won't know the truth with anything these assholes sell us

Bayard

(30,312 posts)

14. Just another PR stunt, and Epstein cover

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:59 AM

Apr 30

That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.

ShazamIam

(3,187 posts)

15. They got their lie into the narrative. It will be impossible to correct in the public mind.

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 12:10 PM

Apr 30

TheRickles

(3,539 posts)

17. As our Attorney General said: "Sometimes you find the bullet, and sometimes it just disappears."

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 12:23 PM

Apr 30

I am not making this up: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221204173
It turns out that evidence recovery is "not an exact science". Who knew? SMH

Faux pas

(16,532 posts)

26. Eff up cover up

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:55 PM

Apr 30

FA and never FO

Katinfl

(886 posts)

27. Carol Leonig stated that Allen tripped and that's why they were able to stop him.

Reply to Wonder Why (Original post)

Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:58 PM

Apr 30

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