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highplainsdem

(62,609 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:06 PM 19 hrs ago

Trump kept out of the room during operation to find downed pilots in Iran after 'screaming' at aides for hours, report

Source: Independent

Trump kept out of the room during operation to find downed pilots in Iran after ‘screaming’ at aides for hours, report says

When President Donald Trump learned that two American pilots had gone missing in Iran on Good Friday, he “screamed at aides for hours” and was then “kept out of the room” while his team was given minute-by-minute updates, according to a report.

An F-15 fighter jet was shot down over Iran on April 3, prompting a high-stakes rescue mission for the missing airmen. One crew member was swiftly rescued by U.S. forces after ejecting before the aircraft went down - but the second crew member spent more than 24 hours behind enemy lines before he was safely extracted.

Back in Washington, D.C., Trump’s fears about how the war was playing out “were ramping up,” according to The Wall Street Journal.

-snip-

“Aides kept the president out of the room as they got minute-by-minute updates because they believed his impatience wouldn’t be helpful,” the official told the newspaper.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-screamed-aides-missing-pilots-iran-b2960603.html

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Trump kept out of the room during operation to find downed pilots in Iran after 'screaming' at aides for hours, report (Original Post) highplainsdem 19 hrs ago OP
Trump desperately craves affection and praise, yet not one photo op w the supposed rescued 2nd pilot - suspicious, no?? NoMoreRepugs 19 hrs ago #1
He wants to be the bride at every wedding, displacedvermoter 19 hrs ago #3
I'd be okay with the corpse thing RandomNumbers 17 hrs ago #34
Never crossed my mind... displacedvermoter 16 hrs ago #39
Maybe the second pilot had some derogatory things to say about the Iranian War fiasco. magicarpet 19 hrs ago #5
OR...there was no second pilot NCDem47 19 hrs ago #15
The shot down plane has 2 crewmembers...1 pilot, 1 back seat weapons/radar operator nt EX500rider 17 hrs ago #33
I still think it was someone who for, displacedvermoter 16 hrs ago #40
Why isn't he parading them around as heros? Unless he wanted them dead forsome reason? Srkdqltr 19 hrs ago #2
He prefers them before they get shot down UpInArms 19 hrs ago #8
Might it be that their remarks would mtairyguy 18 hrs ago #18
Exactly Farmer-Rick 18 hrs ago #27
So now his staff are actively conspiring against him? Do tell.... FakeNoose 19 hrs ago #4
What does that say about who is actually making decisions and running the country? Lonestarblue 19 hrs ago #9
i'm suspecting the "major decisions" are coming from grok rampartd 18 hrs ago #30
It actually makes me feel a little better knowing the staff stepped in questionseverything 6 hrs ago #49
I'm sure Donny was very, very concerned--about what that would do to his approval ratings. tanyev 19 hrs ago #6
I'm sure they could still hear the screams through the blanket walls of the situation room. Hugin 19 hrs ago #7
He wanted the pilots found... GiqueCee 19 hrs ago #10
+1. He should fire the producer dalton99a 19 hrs ago #11
Who has the power to keep Trump out of a room he wants to be in? karynnj 19 hrs ago #12
Exactly that - keep him occupied elsewhere. TBF 19 hrs ago #13
Keep him busy with fabric swatches and marble samples... EarthFirst 19 hrs ago #14
I'd think Wiles and Miller can talk him into staying away underpants 18 hrs ago #22
They just dangled some shiny keys in front of him. Ray Bruns 32 min ago #54
"kept out of the room" Talitha 19 hrs ago #16
"Downed pilots" angrychair 18 hrs ago #17
The pilots have never been identified AFAIK. 50 Shades Of Blue 18 hrs ago #23
I can't 100% latch on to that theory BUT we all do remember Pvt. Jessica Lynch underpants 18 hrs ago #24
Hegseth probably has an opinion about her. Grokenstein 17 hrs ago #35
Our dog barks when confused too. twodogsbarking 18 hrs ago #19
And then there's Kash, who they had to break in on because he was passed-out drunk unconscious. NBachers 18 hrs ago #20
Do we KNOW either of them have been extracted? AllyCat 18 hrs ago #21
Pilots are generally bright and can think fast when a situation needs action beyond 'the book' They have to if they live Attilatheblond 17 hrs ago #36
Keeping TSF out of room good idea under all circumstances. Sneederbunk 18 hrs ago #25
There's only one room I want him in, evolves 11 hrs ago #46
Why does this 'rescue' site look like Desert One? BidenRocks 18 hrs ago #26
Then there was this BS story about how the aircraft were stuck in the mud. Crowman2009 43 min ago #53
Grampy had himself another poopy fit? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 18 hrs ago #28
Karoline Leavitt told The Journal that Trump had "remained a steady leader our country needs." BlueWaveNeverEnd 18 hrs ago #29
Can't wait for the musical "TRUMP" BaronChocula 18 hrs ago #31
He just can't stand not being the center of attention JoseBalow 18 hrs ago #32
Every attempt he makes to get himself out of a mess he created just creates a bigger mess Attilatheblond 17 hrs ago #37
Just the sort of person we want in office to receive that 3 AM phone call. Martin68 17 hrs ago #38
Good for them. Trump is a big Blabbermouth! riversedge 15 hrs ago #41
Was Trump concerned for the pilot, or for how this might look bad? Martin Eden 15 hrs ago #42
No one single thing he does is helpful. efhmc 14 hrs ago #43
You would think bdamomma 13 hrs ago #44
This, in and of itself, shows that Trump is deemed incompetent by his own team and that he is being manipulated. hamsterjill 13 hrs ago #45
They know that stupid fuck can't keep his fat yap shut Blue Owl 9 hrs ago #47
His whole cabinet needs to be held accountable and imprisoned too. BigmanPigman 7 hrs ago #48
I don't think that future historians will wonder.. wnylib 1 hr ago #52
On 09-11-2001, Cheney and his wife were in a secure operations room. John1956PA 2 hrs ago #50
I remember a DUer saying Trump wasn't absent, he was "busy overseeing the rescue operation" Skittles 2 hrs ago #51

NoMoreRepugs

(12,159 posts)
1. Trump desperately craves affection and praise, yet not one photo op w the supposed rescued 2nd pilot - suspicious, no??
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:08 PM
19 hrs ago

displacedvermoter

(4,752 posts)
3. He wants to be the bride at every wedding,
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:15 PM
19 hrs ago

the corpse at every funeral, and apparently the downed aviator at every rescue mission!

magicarpet

(18,902 posts)
5. Maybe the second pilot had some derogatory things to say about the Iranian War fiasco.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:22 PM
19 hrs ago

And they did not want this pilot to voice his objections in public.

EX500rider

(12,637 posts)
33. The shot down plane has 2 crewmembers...1 pilot, 1 back seat weapons/radar operator nt
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 02:08 PM
17 hrs ago

displacedvermoter

(4,752 posts)
40. I still think it was someone who for,
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 03:46 PM
16 hrs ago

whatever reason, was not supposed to be up there.

I once became aware of an incident at the beginning of Desert Shield/Desert Storm when a new wing commander (O-6) went up in one of his B-52s in the copilot slot, in the first wave of strikes. He was not supposed to be up there cause he knew some really crucial stuff, and he could have been a real prize if captured.

I never found out the upshot of the incident, but have wondered about this since the news broke.

Srkdqltr

(9,833 posts)
2. Why isn't he parading them around as heros? Unless he wanted them dead forsome reason?
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:12 PM
19 hrs ago

This whole thing is idiotic.

UpInArms

(55,075 posts)
8. He prefers them before they get shot down
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:42 PM
19 hrs ago

And, heaven forbid if they are black or in some way injured … can’t be seen with those types

mtairyguy

(37 posts)
18. Might it be that their remarks would
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 01:06 PM
18 hrs ago

…be something less than complimentary to trump? Might they actually question the mission or its planning?

Lonestarblue

(13,524 posts)
9. What does that say about who is actually making decisions and running the country?
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:44 PM
19 hrs ago

It seems that if Trump is not sleeping through meetings where major decisions are being made or throwing screaming temper tantrums, then someone else is in charge. He needs to be removed before he launches nuclear war!

rampartd

(4,749 posts)
30. i'm suspecting the "major decisions" are coming from grok
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 02:00 PM
18 hrs ago

it needs to be unplugged before it launches

questionseverything

(11,863 posts)
49. It actually makes me feel a little better knowing the staff stepped in
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 01:17 AM
6 hrs ago

So the service men could be rescued

tanyev

(49,417 posts)
6. I'm sure Donny was very, very concerned--about what that would do to his approval ratings.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:30 PM
19 hrs ago

😒

Hugin

(37,911 posts)
7. I'm sure they could still hear the screams through the blanket walls of the situation room.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:34 PM
19 hrs ago

Hindsight is 20/20, maybe they should have sent him out to the course to hit some dropped balls.

GiqueCee

(4,462 posts)
10. He wanted the pilots found...
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:47 PM
19 hrs ago

... before the last commercial break. Ratings, man, RATINGS!

karynnj

(61,025 posts)
12. Who has the power to keep Trump out of a room he wants to be in?
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:52 PM
19 hrs ago

Other than not telling him where they are really meeting and having a decoy team meet with Trump to keep him occupied, how is this possible.

TBF

(36,871 posts)
13. Exactly that - keep him occupied elsewhere.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:57 PM
19 hrs ago

He doesn't really know how things work, so it's probably not that hard to divert his attention.

EarthFirst

(4,184 posts)
14. Keep him busy with fabric swatches and marble samples...
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 01:02 PM
19 hrs ago

…it’s probably far easier than we could imagine.

underpants

(196,842 posts)
22. I'd think Wiles and Miller can talk him into staying away
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 01:28 PM
18 hrs ago

and as mentioned below, they probably distracted him fabric swaths and marble samples for the ballroom or the Kennedy Center

angrychair

(12,364 posts)
17. "Downed pilots"
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 01:05 PM
18 hrs ago

There is serious concerns that there never were any downed pilots but this was an operation to seize uranium from Iran.

Did they ever release the names of the downed pilot and navigator?
Ranks?
Cities or states they were from?

Medical condition?

Just asking questions.

50 Shades Of Blue

(11,435 posts)
23. The pilots have never been identified AFAIK.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 01:35 PM
18 hrs ago

Which is why I think the rescue story is bullshit.

underpants

(196,842 posts)
24. I can't 100% latch on to that theory BUT we all do remember Pvt. Jessica Lynch
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 01:35 PM
18 hrs ago

She’s 42 now and seems to be doing well. She was used by Dick&W and an overzealous press.

As of late 2025, Jessica Lynch, 42, is a motivational speaker, advocate for women veterans, and substitute teacher living in West Virginia. A former POW rescued in 2003, she holds degrees in education and communication, works with the West Virginia Department of Veterans Assistance, and travels to share her story of resilienc




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Lynch

Grokenstein

(6,375 posts)
35. Hegseth probably has an opinion about her.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 02:32 PM
17 hrs ago

"Fuggin' (hic) DEI, maaaan. DEI h-hi-hire. Woooo! (vomits) No wa-wa-warrior spirit. Gimme another!!"

NBachers

(19,500 posts)
20. And then there's Kash, who they had to break in on because he was passed-out drunk unconscious.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 01:10 PM
18 hrs ago

AllyCat

(18,911 posts)
21. Do we KNOW either of them have been extracted?
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 01:22 PM
18 hrs ago

Because it seems there are no interviews or news reports about or with them.

Attilatheblond

(9,051 posts)
36. Pilots are generally bright and can think fast when a situation needs action beyond 'the book' They have to if they live
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 02:45 PM
17 hrs ago

Seems plausible that if there were downed airmen, and they were rescued, they might not be amiable to saying good things about the crazy idiot who started the war.

BidenRocks

(3,376 posts)
26. Why does this 'rescue' site look like Desert One?
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 01:44 PM
18 hrs ago

C 130s destroyed is never a good sign of success.
Was that the blueprint for this fiasco?
The Wizzo likely died and it's a cover-up!
The pilot?
I do not trust our government to provide truthful, accurate information about anything!

Crowman2009

(3,568 posts)
53. Then there was this BS story about how the aircraft were stuck in the mud.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 07:21 AM
44 min ago

Last time I checked, Iran was under a severe drought and that ground those downed MC-130s were on didn't look very muddy to me.

BaronChocula

(4,635 posts)
31. Can't wait for the musical "TRUMP"
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 02:01 PM
18 hrs ago

I have an idea for a song.

They kept him out of the room where it happened
The room where it happened
The room where it happened


Attilatheblond

(9,051 posts)
37. Every attempt he makes to get himself out of a mess he created just creates a bigger mess
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 03:00 PM
17 hrs ago

Somewhat comforting to know there are a few people in there who know that and actually worked to get info to solve the problem rather than letting Mr Rash Judgement get involved and make it a mess none of them would survive.

Martin Eden

(15,724 posts)
42. Was Trump concerned for the pilot, or for how this might look bad?
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 05:02 PM
15 hrs ago

You don't have to answer that question. It was rhetorical.

hamsterjill

(17,663 posts)
45. This, in and of itself, shows that Trump is deemed incompetent by his own team and that he is being manipulated.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 06:39 PM
13 hrs ago

If the "aides" can keep him out of a room in the White House, then what else do they keep him from doing/not doing?

Paging Stephen Miller...

BigmanPigman

(55,305 posts)
48. His whole cabinet needs to be held accountable and imprisoned too.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 12:56 AM
7 hrs ago

In 100 years historians will look at this period in amazement and wonder why no body did shit to stop him. Every single government worker who has enabled his insane destruction at a world wide level should be seen as the classic "Benedict Arnolds" of this century.

wnylib

(26,227 posts)
52. I don't think that future historians will wonder..
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 06:30 AM
1 hr ago

By that time the influence of his enablers and the enablers themselves will be long gone. With nobody to obscure the truth, historians will be able to put together the facts from remnants of evidence.

Records of stock market changes, Trump statements, that influenced the market and Trump family wealth growth will tell that story.

The handlers and criminals will not be able to hide all the facts. There will be records of broadcasts. There will be books. There will be records in other countries.

Future historians will be able to put together who worked behind the scenes and why.

John1956PA

(5,009 posts)
50. On 09-11-2001, Cheney and his wife were in a secure operations room.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 05:06 AM
2 hrs ago

Richard Clarke wanted the large monitor to display intelligence feeds. Mrs. Cheney insisted that the monitor be tuned to CNN.

I am going by my memory in supplying the foregoing anecdote. I am sure that I read it somewhere shortly after 9-11. It may not be true.

Of interest is that the room might have been the Presidential Emergency Operations Center. That room was beneath The East Wing, all of which is now gone because of Trump.

Skittles

(172,172 posts)
51. I remember a DUer saying Trump wasn't absent, he was "busy overseeing the rescue operation"
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 05:54 AM
2 hrs ago
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