If were a foreign national who had planned a vacation in the US, I'd cancel my plans right now with a big fat FUCK YOU.

Thousands of US companies that rely upon their income from foreign travelers will be in a world of hurt...

Stupid.

I've said for awhile now -

What is used to keep people out . . . Can be used to keep us in.

We are at the 'papers please' point on the timeline.

soon, maybe, other countries will retaliate with similar measures for U.S. visitors to their countries (after all, who wants a bunch of sweat-pants-wearing yahoos with gun fetishes in their country?).

That accomplishes the same thing as our govt requiring that info from us, but being able to blame it on 'them".

add in a few more miles of border fence and mission accomplished: money for nuthin and slaves for free! (sorry Mr. Knopfler)

During the Cold War only the communist countries used Jim Crow as a battering ram.

The same countries that spit in South Africa's eye - ignored the plight of Black Americans.

They won't retaliate.

This regime will fall. Their lack of retaliation now will be (MUST BE) our reason to ignore them "reasoning" with us.

I.don't think America as we have known it is ending now. I think we can end it after the Regime. We have to or they will rise again. And if we don't? The clamoring from the Blue State Alliances will make it inevitable.

I'm in NJ. We are NOT coming together and pretending none of this happened and we are 'One' AmeriKKKa again. By the time this ends, I believe our state's newly created Chief Operating Officer will have defined and implemented a way for New Jersey to stop giving our money away to people that hate us.

Mikie was clear - if we don't get a piece of the pie - we don't give this Regime the money to bake it. Once we get it back - we aren't just going to let Ron Johnson and Bimbo Boebert get the opportunity to take it back from us.

It's enough. I guess an Ann Coulter was right . . . we're godless liberals - in New Jersey. If we had wanted a lower case nice Governor - Ras Baraka would have run the board in June.

But, this damned well seals the deal. I certainly would not in their shoes.

to avoid the US at all costs. It is not a safe place for anyone, especially non-citizens and anyone with a complexion darker than Stephen Miller's cadaver-like skin tone.

Other countries could retaliate against US visitors by putting them through hoops like this, not because they care about our opinions but as an FU to Trump since by now many of them despise him.

I posted on another strand last week that US tourism employs around 20 million people. Trump is killing many of their jobs because he thinks no one should have the right to criticize him or note how exceptionally stupid he is. In an already slowing economy, it’s not very smart to kill off foreign tourism.

if they haven't already.

And it’s so sad and embarrassing.

All while you are on a vacation.

Sure, sounds like a fun getaway.

Do you suppose it will affect our ability to host world-wide events such as the FIFA World Cup?

Basically anyone who is not a citizen--and even some naturalized citizens -- are wary of traveling.

do they want pro fascist pro russian posts ?
we know what they don't want, but what are
they looking to as a positive past ?

...water is wet. Who the hell in their right mind would jump through ANY of these hoops just for a vacation or a work-related conference, especially if it meant increasing your risk of getting blown to bits in a mass shooting or being grabbed off the street by masked goons and disappeared down a memory hole where your family and lawyers can't even find you?