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BumRushDaShow

(164,756 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:09 PM Thursday

Trump signs executive order for single national AI regulation framework, limiting power of states

Source: CNBC

Published Thu, Dec 11 2025 6:43 PM EST Updated 7 Min Ago


President Donald Trump signed an executive order Thursday issuing a single regulation framework for artificial intelligence, undermining the power of individual states.

The Trump administration, with the aid of AI and crypto czar David Sacks, has been pursuing a path that would allow federal rules to preempt state regulations on AI, a move meant to keep big Democratic-led states like California and New York from exerting their control over the growing industry.

There has been a growing debate over AI, specifically related to an increasing number of individual state laws that could conflict with a federal standard.

The move marks a win for tech companies, who’ve argued against states rights when it comes to regulation on artificial intelligence.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/11/trump-signs-executive-order-for-single-national-ai-regulation-framework.html



tech companies, who’ve argued against states rights when it comes to regulation


"States Rights" is a core GOP belief and principle to enhance their "freedumbs". Tech bros are saying - "not so fast".

He keeps fixating on blue states but it's the RED STATES (with their religious right, "no drinking, no dancing, no card playing" crowd), that want the power to restrict content. They are the ban-the-book people.

(be prepared for AI porn to run rampant if this survives )
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anciano

(2,121 posts)
1. Since AI is reshaping how we live and work,
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:15 PM
Thursday

any controls and restrictions that are eventually implemented to regulate its use need to be uniform and universal nationwide for the same reason there aren't 50 different sets of rules for using the internet.

KPN

(17,101 posts)
4. Ordinarily yes. These aren't ordinary times nor is this administration an "ordinary" one. So, while I might
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:29 PM
Thursday

ordinarily agree with you, not in this case. No f'ing way do I think we should cede all regulatory control over AI to the Trump and his Magaloons. That's a recipe for not only disaster, but a gargantuan train robbery to boot.

BumRushDaShow

(164,756 posts)
7. As noted in the reply above, in "ordinary times" for some kind of "telecommuications" standard, it would make sense.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:39 PM
Thursday

But in 45's case, he will have his loons introduce draconian things like - "no DEI", no "Woke" content and other nonsense, and would probably give themselves the power to enable "filters" to remove content they don't like.

SpankMe

(3,651 posts)
2. This can't be done with an exec order
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:20 PM
Thursday

It takes legislation.

But no doubt this SCOTUS with find some loophole that will allow it.

States will try to regulate anyway against the "force" of an EO. The feds try to block it based on the EO. States sue the government under states rights, or exec overreach, or separation of powers. It'll end up in SCOTUS. I figure at least three years for this to clear, one way or the other.

BumRushDaShow

(164,756 posts)
8. "I figure at least three years for this to clear, one way or the other."
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:43 PM
Thursday

He picks up his "hotline" to "Daddy Roberts" and Roberts will "instantly" put a stay on any appeal, and will allow the crap to continue until they get around to it.

OC375

(386 posts)
3. Everyone Likes States Rights...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:20 PM
Thursday

…if it gets them what they want. Same with preemptions. Everything goes to court anymore anyways, and the default is asking adjudication rather than permission. This reg will stop nothing.

cachukis

(3,600 posts)
6. There will have to be some guardrails. I suggest
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:33 PM
Thursday

letting the states implement their controls as a laboratory and compare findings with other labs to establish standards. The faster a smaller institution, state, gets at it, the faster we will see discussion on best recommendations. Ultimately, we have to have the automobile able to gas up anywhere, but we need to find the best system. Letting the AI groups go wild is scary, at best.

pat_k

(12,655 posts)
9. The American economy is now an all-in-bet on AI. Prohibiting regulation? What could go wrong?
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:23 PM
Thursday

No Mercy / No Malice
How does the end begin?
https://www.profgalloway.com/how-does-the-end-begin/

The top 10 stocks in the S&P 500 account for 40% of the index’s market cap. Since ChatGPT launched in November 2022, AI-related stocks have registered 75% of S&P 500 returns, 80% of earnings growth, and 90% of capital spending growth. Meanwhile, AI investments accounted for nearly 92% of the U.S. GDP growth this year. Without those AI investments, Harvard economist Jason Furman noted, growth would be flat. As Ruchir Sharma concluded in the Financial Times, “America is now one big bet on AI,” adding, “AI better deliver for the U.S., or its economy and markets will lose the one leg they are now standing on.” This concentration creates fragility, and how the end begins becomes more visible.

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Trillion-Dollar Question
Valuations for the Mag 10 — the original group of seven leading tech stocks, plus AMD, Broadcom, and Palantir — are high, but not yet at historic peaks. The 24-month forward P/E ratio of the Mag 10 is 35x. In 2000, at the height of the dot-com bubble, the top 10 stocks traded at 52x forward earnings. Implicit in these valuations, however, is an assumption that AI will help these companies cut costs, or grow revenues by $1 trillion in the next two years. I believe we’re either going to see a massive destruction in valuations, infecting all U.S. stocks and global markets. Or we’re going to see a massive destruction in employment across industries with the highest concentrations of white-collar workers. Both scenarios are ugly.

If Mag 10 valuations are cut in half, the S&P and global markets would decline by 20% and 10%, respectively. In the U.S., the immediate impact would be felt by the wealthiest 10%, who own 87% of the stocks. Those households won’t struggle to pay their bills, but they may be the tail of the whip on the economy, as wealthy households have the luxury of decreasing their spending dramatically, vs. middle-class households, who spend the majority of their income on basics. If the top 10%, who account for half the consumer spending in the U.S., hit the brakes, the nation gets whiplash. I estimate that if the wealthy see their portfolios drop by 20%, we could see a 2-3% decline in GDP. For context: From peak to trough, the Great Recession registered a 4.3% drop in GDP.

If the Mag 10 justify their valuations by delivering $1 trillion in cost-cutting (Latin for “layoffs”), the impact will hit white-collar workers first, but the contagion could spread.
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Dot-Com Vibes
The AI infrastructure build-out has accelerated recently with an estimated $1 trillion in new commitments. Some firms are making deals with money and assets that don’t yet exist. See: OpenAI promising Oracle $300 billion — money it doesn’t have — for infrastructure Oracle hasn’t built. In other cases, revenue comes from “circular financing,” where dollars rotate between firms, obscuring true market demand. See: Nvidia’s $100 billion investment in OpenAI, which OpenAI will use to buy … Nvidia chips. Circular financing deals were common toward the end of the dot-com bubble, when similar deals contributed to a crash that destroyed 77% of Nasdaq market value. If we are on the precipice of a bubble popping, Nvidia and OpenAI will likely be ground zero. But the fallout would be widespread, as an ecosystem that resembles an ouroboros lives and dies by a shared narrative.
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Much more in the article.

It is always worse than you think.

The trump regime is already moving to bail out AI powerhouses that are failing to deliver...





PortTack

(35,810 posts)
12. Yes, the oligarchs are all in on AI. And way way over invested
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 01:34 AM
Friday

The amount they have poured into AI does not and will not yield the profits they think it will. They are betting on ppl using AI, for free, then somewhere, probably sooner than later expect that ppl will be willing to pay a subscription to keep using it. That’s like saying the average facebook user will suddenly start paying to use it…ain’t happening.

There are lots of deep dives on this…just do a search and you’ll find pages of results that explain it in detail!

msongs

(72,976 posts)
10. can't recall seeing executive orders in the constitution. then again, repubs love this crap nt
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:36 PM
Thursday
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