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BumRushDaShow

(164,273 posts)
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 10:48 AM 5 hrs ago

US vaccine advisers say not all babies need a hepatitis B shot at birth

Source: AP

Updated 10:41 AM EST, December 5, 2025


NEW YORK (AP) — A federal vaccine advisory committee voted on Friday to end the longstanding recommendation that all U.S. babies get the hepatitis B vaccine on the day they’re born.

A loud chorus of medical and public health leaders decried the actions of the panel, whose current members were all appointed by U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — a leading anti-vaccine activist before this year becoming the nation’s top health official.

“This is the group that can’t shoot straight,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt University vaccine expert who for decades has been involved with ACIP and its workgroups. For decades, the government has advised that all babies be vaccinated against the liver infection right after birth. The shots are widely considered to be a public health success for preventing thousands of illnesses.

But Kennedy’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices decided to recommend the birth dose only for babies whose mothers test positive, and in cases where the mom wasn’t tested. For other babies, it will be up to the parents and their doctors to decide if a birth dose is appropriate. The committee voted to suggest that when a family decides not to get a birth dose, then the vaccination series should begin when the child is 2 months old.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/vaccines-babies-hepatitis-b-10f8db54beb38c5cd39a94f8a3657752



They will be considered "persona non grata" for the next 3 years and state/regional entities will make the policy. They will kill their own MAGats.

REFERENCE - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143577128
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US vaccine advisers say not all babies need a hepatitis B shot at birth (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 5 hrs ago OP
Illinois has enacted snowybirdie 5 hrs ago #1
Parents should demand their pediatricians follow the Illinois vaccination schedule. FarPoint 5 hrs ago #3
There are a couple "regional" health alliances/colaboratives BumRushDaShow 5 hrs ago #5
And yet he might be right about this one. TheRickles 5 hrs ago #2
Agree on this one vaccine- totally unnecessary unless the mother was at risk as a drug abuser biophile 5 hrs ago #4
So, your theory is that you can perfectly identify a subgroup of babies which ought to be given protection? xocetaceans 5 hrs ago #10
No, it's not for me personally to decide biophile 4 hrs ago #12
Some HepB + mothers aren't tested. Or they have false-negative results. mainer 5 hrs ago #6
Asian Americans are at higher risk. deurbano 5 hrs ago #7
So, your theory is that you can perfectly identify a subgroup of babies which ought to be given protection? What . . . xocetaceans 5 hrs ago #8
Utter hogwash. You don't know what you're talking about. PSPS 4 hrs ago #13
Wait a minute... maybe I misunderstood you... slightlv 4 hrs ago #16
I should say that Magatry is a murder-suicide cult. ananda 5 hrs ago #9
I think waiting till babies are older is a good idea womanofthehills 4 hrs ago #11
Oh, please. The liver damage can already be happeinig before babies "are older." PSPS 4 hrs ago #14
Fevers are scary. But they are only one indicator in a myriad of symptoms used to diagnose problems. ... littlemissmartypants 3 hrs ago #17
U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is a baby killer. nt SunSeeker 4 hrs ago #15
So which ones will need it then? mdbl 3 hrs ago #18

snowybirdie

(6,509 posts)
1. Illinois has enacted
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 10:51 AM
5 hrs ago

Rules for the state differs that from the Kennedy follies. All red states should do that as well.

FarPoint

(14,408 posts)
3. Parents should demand their pediatricians follow the Illinois vaccination schedule.
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:00 AM
5 hrs ago

This for any US state that follows the black sheep Kennedy.

BumRushDaShow

(164,273 posts)
5. There are a couple "regional" health alliances/colaboratives
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:14 AM
5 hrs ago

One in the NE and one out west.





They planned to share/issue medical guidance for participating states.

TheRickles

(3,109 posts)
2. And yet he might be right about this one.
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 10:55 AM
5 hrs ago

The rate of Hep B infections in newborns is miniscule, except in the subgroup of babies born to drug addicts. So target that high-risk population and not the other 95% of newborns.

biophile

(1,085 posts)
4. Agree on this one vaccine- totally unnecessary unless the mother was at risk as a drug abuser
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:07 AM
5 hrs ago

xocetaceans

(4,320 posts)
10. So, your theory is that you can perfectly identify a subgroup of babies which ought to be given protection?
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:36 AM
5 hrs ago

What gives you such confidence in that ability and what about the other numbers of transmission cases? Do you think that those are transmissions are fine, too?

Out of about 3,600,000 newborns per year in the US, how many constitute that minuscule number of transmissions that you too would accept and tolerate as fine? What do you wish on them in lieu of a safe and effective vaccination against such an eminently avoidable disease?

RFK, Jr. is not correct and is wholly unqualified and is pathetically incompetent as the leader of HHS.

biophile

(1,085 posts)
12. No, it's not for me personally to decide
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:49 AM
4 hrs ago

It’s a conversation between the doctor and the mother. I don’t think that a blanket requirement to inject newborns with a largely unnecessary vaccine is a good idea. It should certainly be a medical decision based on individual circumstances.

Agree that RFK is unqualified to be head of the agency.

mainer

(12,468 posts)
6. Some HepB + mothers aren't tested. Or they have false-negative results.
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:15 AM
5 hrs ago

Their babies will get infected.
It would be terrible to miss them.

xocetaceans

(4,320 posts)
8. So, your theory is that you can perfectly identify a subgroup of babies which ought to be given protection? What . . .
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:31 AM
5 hrs ago

. . . gives you such confidence in that ability and what about the other "miniscule [sic]" numbers of transmission cases? Do you think that those are transmissions are fine?

Out of about 3,600,000 newborns per year in the US, how many constitute that minuscule number of transmissions that you would accept and tolerate as fine? What do you wish on them in lieu of a safe and effective vaccination against such an eminently avoidable disease?

RFK, Jr. is not correct and is wholly unqualified and is pathetically incompetent as the leader of HHS.

PSPS

(15,160 posts)
13. Utter hogwash. You don't know what you're talking about.
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:56 AM
4 hrs ago

The incidence of hep B was reduced over 90% after the current program was implemented in the 90's. There's no legitimate argument at all over keeping the existing guidelines outside the loony anti-vax ward.

slightlv

(7,176 posts)
16. Wait a minute... maybe I misunderstood you...
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 12:37 PM
4 hrs ago

but you're saying kill a program that has reduced the disease by 90%, because it reduced the disease by 90% and is no longer needed? Sounds like the same reasoning for chicken pox parties, to me.

ananda

(34,170 posts)
9. I should say that Magatry is a murder-suicide cult.
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:35 AM
5 hrs ago

And so many of them don't mind dying for the
cause.

womanofthehills

(10,670 posts)
11. I think waiting till babies are older is a good idea
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:44 AM
4 hrs ago

My grandson was only hrs old when he got the Hep B shot and got a fever. That’s scary !

PSPS

(15,160 posts)
14. Oh, please. The liver damage can already be happeinig before babies "are older."
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:58 AM
4 hrs ago

Why wait? Because you think vaccines are "dangerous?"

littlemissmartypants

(31,041 posts)
17. Fevers are scary. But they are only one indicator in a myriad of symptoms used to diagnose problems. ...
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 12:46 PM
3 hrs ago

A fever means very little on its own in the broad scheme of things.

The vaccine is for the 'B' form of hepatitis, FYI.




What is Hepatitis
Hepatitis B is an inflammation of the liver caused by a virus. Globally, there are over 400 million chronic carriers of hepatitis B. It’s estimated that more than 13,000 people contract hepatitis B each year in the U.S. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that about 5% of HPV cases acquired in adulthood progress to chronic hepatitis, while about 90% of cases acquired in infancy progress to chronic.
https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/hepatitis

Hepatitis B
Key facts
Hepatitis B is a viral infection that attacks the liver and can cause both acute and chronic disease.
The virus is most commonly transmitted from mother to child during birth and delivery, in early childhood, as well as through contact with blood or other body fluids during sex with an infected partner, unsafe injections or exposures to sharp instruments.
WHO estimates that 254 million people were living with chronic hepatitis B infection in 2022, with 1.2 million new infections each year.
In 2022, hepatitis B resulted in an estimated 1.1 million deaths, mostly from cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma (primary liver cancer).
Hepatitis B can be prevented by vaccines that are safe, available and effective.
Overview
Hepatitis B is an infection of the liver caused by the hepatitis B virus. The infection can be acute (short and severe) or chronic (long term).

Hepatitis B can cause a chronic infection and puts people at high risk of death from cirrhosis and liver cancer.

It can spread through contact with infected body fluids like blood, saliva, vaginal fluids and semen. It can also be passed from a mother to her baby.

Hepatitis B can be prevented with a safe and effective vaccine. The vaccine is usually given soon after birth with boosters a few weeks later. It offers nearly 100% protection against the virus.

Hepatitis B is a major global health problem. The burden of infection is highest in the WHO Western Pacific Region and the WHO African Region, where 97 million and 65 million people, respectively, are chronically infected. Sixty-one million people are infected in the WHO South-East Asia Region, 15 million in the WHO Eastern Mediterranean Region, 11 million in the WHO in the WHO European Region and 5 million in the WHO Region of the Americas.

Transmission
In highly endemic areas, hepatitis B is most commonly spread from mother to child at birth (perinatal transmission) or through horizontal transmission, especially from an infected child to an uninfected child during the first 5 years of life. The development of chronic infection is very common in infants infected from their mothers or before the age of 5 years.

Hepatitis B is also spread by needlestick injury, tattooing, piercing and exposure to infected blood and body fluids, such as saliva and menstrual, vaginal and seminal fluids. Transmission of the virus may also occur through the sharing or reuse of contaminated needles and syringes or sharp objects either in health care settings, in the community or among persons who inject drugs. Sexual transmission is more prevalent in unvaccinated persons with multiple sexual partners.

Hepatitis B infection acquired in adulthood leads to chronic hepatitis in less than 5% of cases, whereas infection in infancy and early childhood leads to chronic hepatitis in about 95% of cases. This is the basis for strengthening and prioritizing infant and childhood vaccination.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/hepatitis-b

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