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OKIsItJustMe

(21,703 posts)
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 06:55 PM Aug 2025

'I hear I'm not doing well': Trump hopes he can get into heaven and believes solving Ukraine war will get him there

Source: Independent

US president suggested brokering peace between Russia and Ukraine would help him ‘get to heaven’

Ariana Baio
Tuesday 19 August 2025 15:07 BST

President Donald Trump said he hopes brokering peace between Russia and Ukraine will land him a spot in heaven.

Speaking with Fox and Friends just one day after hosting European leaders, including Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, at the White House, Trump hinted that helping end the war could also benefited him. The leaders met as Trump continues to push for an end of the war between Russia and Ukraine.

“If I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I think that’s pretty– I want to try to get to heaven if possible, I’m hearing that I’m not doing well. I am really at the bottom of the totem pole,” Trump joked.

“But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons,” he added.



Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ukraine-zelensky-meeting-fox-b2810313.html



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'I hear I'm not doing well': Trump hopes he can get into heaven and believes solving Ukraine war will get him there (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Aug 2025 OP
"Hey fatso, please die!" wolfie001 Aug 2025 #1
More like Smilo Aug 2025 #2
I'm sure you'll find out, but I heard somewhere that they don't take adulterers and pedophiles. MLWR Aug 2025 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Upjumpdadebil Aug 2025 #20
Like eating seven apples on Saturday ... Upjumpdadebil Aug 2025 #32
Speaking of "tubby," NJCher Aug 2025 #41
Best news of the day.. Permanut Aug 2025 #4
And don't forget Rush! llmart Aug 2025 #16
His chances of going to Heaven are even worse than his odds for the Nobel Peace Prize, Ocelot II Aug 2025 #5
He got a better chance of seeing Elvis. 3Hotdogs Aug 2025 #33
His odds of going to heaven are down; Not 30 or 40%, but 1,000%, 600%, 500%, 1500% NowsTheTime Aug 2025 #44
But, damn - this actually explains his obsession with getting the Nobel Prize dhol82 Aug 2025 #6
I don't... myohmy2 Aug 2025 #7
Somebody please tell them they have the best golf courses there.. PittBlue Aug 2025 #8
The more he speaks, the stupider he sounds. 33taw Aug 2025 #40
At least Donnie's right about one thing... regnaD kciN Aug 2025 #9
He's not even on the totem Pole. EndlessWire Aug 2025 #12
"I'm hearing I'm not doing well" Dulcinea Aug 2025 #39
In one of my favorite Denzel Washington films, Man on Fire.... paleotn Aug 2025 #10
Maybe he's admitting he is physically unwell. Raven123 Aug 2025 #11
Says the man who looked at the Ten Commandments, and said "Hold my beer!" rsdsharp Aug 2025 #13
...solving Ukraine war will get him there... "Heaven" republianmushroom Aug 2025 #14
Just another distraction. EPSTEIN FILES. EndlessWire Aug 2025 #15
He's also trying to minimize perception of his treachery not fooled Aug 2025 #19
Almost sounds like he sold his soul. thought crime Aug 2025 #17
What soul? iemanja Aug 2025 #27
Wheeling and dealing with God. Trump wants His title and power and immortality. travelingthrulife Aug 2025 #65
"I hear I'm not doing well" mzmolly Aug 2025 #18
Heaven is chock-full of all those WOKE people that he doesn't like FakeNoose Aug 2025 #21
"I want to try to get to heaven if possible,.." LudwigPastorius Aug 2025 #22
What would he do there? colorado_ufo Aug 2025 #24
Sorry, Chump... RealityChik Aug 2025 #63
Shutting down USAID will result in huge numbers of people who die from starvation and disease. patphil Aug 2025 #23
and he's buyying his way to, heavven. twodogsbarking Aug 2025 #25
If anyone is destined for hell iemanja Aug 2025 #26
He forgets he's the golden calf. mdbl Aug 2025 #28
Seems a Beta can't be an Alpha no matter ho hard they try. rickyhall Aug 2025 #29
He's doing great, in fact. He should die immediately to go to heaven ASAP. Orrex Aug 2025 #30
Leavitt: "The president wants to get to heaven as I hope we all do in this room." riversedge Aug 2025 #31
She actually said that, and her oversized cross did not burst into flame? niyad Aug 2025 #46
He thinks he's doing an Art of the Deal with God KS Toronado Aug 2025 #34
I hope Trump gets to heaven. He'll be fucking miserable there. Xipe Totec Aug 2025 #35
Dump's on the highway to hell Blue Owl Aug 2025 #36
Slobfather doesn't broker peace, he brokers capitulation. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2025 #37
What bs...I'm sure he would think hell was heaven....nt Figarosmom Aug 2025 #38
When he hildegaard28 Aug 2025 #42
I'm an ordained minister, Rincewind Aug 2025 #43
I saw this once before when a malignant narcissist neared death. Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #45
Thank you for that cheering thought! niyad Aug 2025 #47
In the case of my relative, and I think here, it also answers Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #49
I always assumed that the cruelty and damage was the point. niyad Aug 2025 #53
for them or us? Javaman Aug 2025 #48
They're always a terror to those of us who have to Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #50
😔🥺🫢😊😄😂 dlilafae Aug 2025 #51
I dunno, maybe His Orangeness doesn't need to broker a deal AllyCat Aug 2025 #52
He should drop the F*@% dead and see. DemMedic Aug 2025 #54
A new level of hell is being constructed just for you, Donny Klondike Kat Aug 2025 #55
And immediately in Heaven... MiHale Aug 2025 #56
Completely ignorant of reality and proud of it. twodogsbarking Aug 2025 #57
A little too late DownriverDem Aug 2025 #58
Trump's victims bmichaelh Aug 2025 #59
To which the rest of us say: " If he's going to heaven I'm not." Ritabert Aug 2025 #60
Heaven my a** Jilly_in_VA Aug 2025 #61
Luke 18:24-27 Deminpenn Aug 2025 #62
And when Chump reaches the pearly gates, st Peter Hassler Aug 2025 #64

MLWR

(749 posts)
3. I'm sure you'll find out, but I heard somewhere that they don't take adulterers and pedophiles.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:00 PM
Aug 2025

Especially if they have not asked for forgiveness.

Response to MLWR (Reply #3)

Upjumpdadebil

(18 posts)
32. Like eating seven apples on Saturday ...
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 10:27 PM
Aug 2025

Like eating seven apples.on Saturday night cuz the stable [ boy] jean-yus heard "an apple a day keeps the doctor away."

Tubby is Always looking for the "easiest" way to achieve an unprepared for, and totally un earned prize.

Toss the golf ball up on the green out of the rough. Pay large sums of money to avoid paying taxes that clearly he could afford to shoulder and which would improve the quality.of life for his fellow Human n'bors and country"men".

It's truly sad to realize a committed narcissist is frightened enough not to "repent" but to publicly use a to him "reduced number of deaths" not a total immediate End of Deaths he could advocate for--as he asks The Universe to hear his rather too late too little too bad suckered cry for spiritual salvation.

NJCher

(42,322 posts)
41. Speaking of "tubby,"
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 03:58 AM
Aug 2025

There is a song called “Presidential Tub” by Nils Frahm that should be the theme song for this so-called presidency.

It creates a bizarro feeling of things out of control.

Permanut

(7,936 posts)
4. Best news of the day..
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:02 PM
Aug 2025

Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Jimmy Swaggart will be waiting for you with a warm welcome.

Ocelot II

(128,852 posts)
5. His chances of going to Heaven are even worse than his odds for the Nobel Peace Prize,
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:04 PM
Aug 2025

which are somewhere south of zero, and for many of the same reasons.

dhol82

(9,624 posts)
6. But, damn - this actually explains his obsession with getting the Nobel Prize
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:05 PM
Aug 2025

He’s afraid of dying.
Don’t want to revel in this but, damn!

myohmy2

(3,704 posts)
7. I don't...
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:12 PM
Aug 2025

...think it's possible to suggest trump and heaven are compatible...

...I don't even think you can legitimately use the word 'trump' and 'heaven' in the same sentence...

...the man's got balls, unless he's lying, pretending or faking...

...hard to tell...

PittBlue

(4,698 posts)
8. Somebody please tell them they have the best golf courses there..
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:17 PM
Aug 2025

And he should leave now. Christ on a bike…can’t someone muzzle him?

regnaD kciN

(27,429 posts)
9. At least Donnie's right about one thing...
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:19 PM
Aug 2025
“If I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I think that’s pretty– I want to try to get to heaven if possible, I’m hearing that I’m not doing well. I am really at the bottom of the totem pole,” Trump joked.

paleotn

(21,423 posts)
10. In one of my favorite Denzel Washington films, Man on Fire....
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:19 PM
Aug 2025

there's a scene with Washington and Christopher Walken. Washington's character asks..."Do you think God will forgive us for what we've done?" Walken's simple answer is "No." As though even asking the question is a bit ridiculous considering their backstory. Washington quickly acknowledges his and Walken's fate.

Same with Donnie. No. This whole thing isn't about lives. It's about him as usual, so if there is a heaven or hell, this will only land him in a deeper circle of Hades. One of the few times I wish there is a Hell so we can all watch the bastard burn for eternity. Now THAT'S some everlasting entertainment!!

Raven123

(7,472 posts)
11. Maybe he's admitting he is physically unwell.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:28 PM
Aug 2025

Would be a first, but the evidence is overwhelming

republianmushroom

(22,122 posts)
14. ...solving Ukraine war will get him there... "Heaven"
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:47 PM
Aug 2025

What about all the woman and girls you have assaulted in your life time. The people you have screwed over. The anguish and death you have caused. If there is a heaven that would accept you, I don't want anything to do with it.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
15. Just another distraction. EPSTEIN FILES.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:49 PM
Aug 2025

He still thinks he's the Pope. If I were him, I'd avoid the life review. But, he can go ahead and find out. First, he has to claw his way outta Hell. No, wait. Just go ahead and die. That should do it. Hell is of your own making, Donald.

He's jerking us. He is not capable psychologically of any of these feelings. Now, he's just playing on the sympathies of anyone who can help him win a Nobel. We all know that.

He is insane. I gotta tell ya, if we get the country back, I think we have learned whatever the lesson was. This narcissistic orange prick has hurt millions of people. And he thinks that he will be a hero just for selling out Ukraine? He is despicable, proving it every day, 24/7.

Lord G-d of the Universe, please make this asshole go away. Just do whatever you want with him. No questions asked. Just please get him out of our country, along with his ass-kissing sychophants. Amen.



not fooled

(6,591 posts)
19. He's also trying to minimize perception of his treachery
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 08:34 PM
Aug 2025

by linking in people's minds what he is doing re Ukraine and the concept of "heaven."

travelingthrulife

(4,332 posts)
65. Wheeling and dealing with God. Trump wants His title and power and immortality.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 05:52 PM
Aug 2025

It would be his ultimate con!

FakeNoose

(40,005 posts)
21. Heaven is chock-full of all those WOKE people that he doesn't like
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 08:57 PM
Aug 2025

Why would he want to go there? And I'm certain that they don't want HIM there either....

colorado_ufo

(6,197 posts)
24. What would he do there?
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 09:15 PM
Aug 2025

I don't think there is anything there that would be of interest to him.

RealityChik

(394 posts)
63. Sorry, Chump...
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 04:10 PM
Aug 2025

Those gates are already locked up tight. And you’d have to get past St Gavin Newsom first. It’s too late. Even Jimmy Carter can’t forgive you.

patphil

(8,670 posts)
23. Shutting down USAID will result in huge numbers of people who die from starvation and disease.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 09:10 PM
Aug 2025

It overshadows any possible saving of lives from a cease fire in Ukraine; one that Putin won't agree to until he gets what he wants. Trump has zero influence over that.
Trump chance at "getting into heaven" has already been flushed as a result of the USAID disaster.

mdbl

(8,025 posts)
28. He forgets he's the golden calf.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 09:48 PM
Aug 2025

Last edited Thu Aug 21, 2025, 06:26 AM - Edit history (1)

The bible didn't speak too well of him.

Orrex

(66,604 posts)
30. He's doing great, in fact. He should die immediately to go to heaven ASAP.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 09:57 PM
Aug 2025

And take that shit-sack of a punchable face with him.

riversedge

(79,213 posts)
31. Leavitt: "The president wants to get to heaven as I hope we all do in this room."
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 09:58 PM
Aug 2025


Leavitt: “The president wants to get to heaven as I hope we all do in this room.”



niyad

(129,335 posts)
46. She actually said that, and her oversized cross did not burst into flame?
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 06:42 AM
Aug 2025

The chyron is hilarious. What the krasnov has been/is doing, is destroying US standing un the world.

Rincewind

(1,342 posts)
43. I'm an ordained minister,
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 05:41 AM
Aug 2025

trump is going to Hell. I became a minister (bought credentials online)so I could condemn people to Hell.Also, so I could tell religious assholes " I'm an ordained minister, and you are wrong".

Scrivener7

(58,156 posts)
45. I saw this once before when a malignant narcissist neared death.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 06:28 AM
Aug 2025

It's a true terror for them.

And good.

Scrivener7

(58,156 posts)
49. In the case of my relative, and I think here, it also answers
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 06:48 AM
Aug 2025

a question: they are completely aware of the damage they are doing to others. They just don't care until they think punishment is inevitable.

Scrivener7

(58,156 posts)
50. They're always a terror to those of us who have to
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 06:50 AM
Aug 2025

deal with them. Which right now is all of us. But it was one of the few things I ever saw my relative truly frightened of.

AllyCat

(18,467 posts)
52. I dunno, maybe His Orangeness doesn't need to broker a deal
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 06:55 AM
Aug 2025

He might just get into heaven without it. I really think he should test it out and phucking die now.

Klondike Kat

(919 posts)
55. A new level of hell is being constructed just for you, Donny
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 07:20 AM
Aug 2025

Satan took a survey of the residents of the other levels and they thoroughly rejected the idea of him rooming with them.

MiHale

(12,542 posts)
56. And immediately in Heaven...
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 07:24 AM
Aug 2025

Replacement gates were ordered made of tin thinking that he’ll never come in these gates. The white puffy clouds were tinged with gray hoping to disguise themselves. Angels and most of the other long time residents started booking eternal vacations to other peaceful locations, Nirvana coming up high in online searches.
His ‘road of good intentions’ leading to heaven was purposely sabotaged with many of his bad intentions. Heavenly totem poles were laid on their sides to further confuse. Saturday night karaoke was canceled for the time being…too many Taylor Swift and Jack White songs being sung.

DownriverDem

(6,958 posts)
58. A little too late
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 07:32 AM
Aug 2025

Hey trump, you need to step up if heaven is your goal. Not to mention who will believe you really ended the war in Ukraine?

bmichaelh

(1,080 posts)
59. Trump's victims
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 07:48 AM
Aug 2025

Trump has many victims.

The number of victims from COVID alone run into the thousands; if you count their family members, the millions.

Heaven to Trump may be a Hell since he would not be able to bully people there; if it was a true Heaven.

To Trump, being a materialist, he is more interested in materialist rewards in Heaven.

ANNE
Foul devil, for God’s sake hence, and trouble us not;
For thou hast made the happy earth thy hell,
Fill’d it with cursing cries and deep exclaims.
--Shakespeare, Richard III 1.2.50-52

Jilly_in_VA

(13,785 posts)
61. Heaven my a**
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:19 AM
Aug 2025

Has he ever ONCE asked for forgiveness for anything? I doubt that, because in his eye, he's always "perfect"! Has he ever, even once, said he's sorry for ANYTHING? I don't think so. I have the feeling that when he dies, the gates of hell will open up and the devil will hold his nose and grab nim, or, more likely, motion his minions to do so as it would be too dirty a job even for him. The man is going to hell on a sled, and it can't be too soon!

Deminpenn

(17,281 posts)
62. Luke 18:24-27
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:40 AM
Aug 2025
“Jesus looked at him and said, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Those who heard this asked, “Who then can be saved?”

Jesus replied, “What is impossible with man is possible with God.”

Hassler

(4,742 posts)
64. And when Chump reaches the pearly gates, st Peter
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 05:41 PM
Aug 2025

Says to him, with tears of laughter in his eyes, "Sir, get the fk out of here."

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