Thanks, republican voters.

They deserve blame as well, maybe more because one would expect Republicans to vote for Trump.

Good point,apparently she’ll ova lot of So called Dems. Stayed home and couldn’t be bothered too bvote..Harris and Tim Alzwould have been a great team.

from us, that only stupid morons like the magas would believe in stolen elections, that we were too smart to have anything like that happen to us.

They're just a drain on Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. Government efficiency at your service.

Here's the article that was posted by a fellow DUer:
https://apnews.com/article/vaccines-fda-kennedy-covid-shots-rfk-trump-bb4de15b6ff955d6cd0b406aaec3cdc5

From that AP link:

They want to deny access to the vaccine to everyone except "people 65 years of age and older and others who are at high risk of becoming seriously ill if they are infected."

If they specifically wanted to kill all the old, sick, and disabled people, I don't think it would make much sense to cut off vaccine access to everyone except those groups. This is horrific no matter how you slice it, and any possibility of herd immunity would go right out the window, but it doesn't feel like a targeted attack on the old and other vulnerable groups to me.

I suspect this is related to RFK Jr's disdain for giving vaccines to kids. It fits right in with his obsession with the idea that kids get too many vaccines in childhood. This is what happens when a conspiracy theory addled idiot is put in charge of the nation's heath!

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for her doctoral program in occupational therapy, and there are other types of health care providers more closely interacting with much more vulnerable populations than she has been.

Get people in serious medical debt then make it not dischargable in bankruptcy so that they will have to work slave wages at multiple jobs forever to pay back the vulture capitalists who have been buying virtually every medical center that the catholic church did not in their effor to end ALL reproductive care -- not just abortions, tubal ligations, vasectomy, birth control.

There is a big plan to make a bunch of perpetually poor people who will work until they die.

... for my first Covid shots.

But who knows with these loons?! They think the vaccine is the real threat.

list) can still get the shot. And some of these conditions (physically inactive?!) would really rely on self-reporting, so anyone who wants a booster should just say they are inactive.. or depressed... or whatever qualifies. Maybe it needs to be a more documented condition for insurance coverage, though?

https://www.cdc.gov/covid/hcp/clinical-care/underlying-conditions.html

They've already done studies. Plus we have given billions of shots at this point. They have no right to do this. They are screwing us and attacking our health. FUCK THEM!!

I'm a lifelong chronic asthmatic. I keep it more or less under control, but because I can't use the steroid inhalers (e.g. Qvar), I'm reliant on rescue medication (e.g. albuterol). This means I still get attacks. But I'm still in my 50's.

Would I qualify as "at risk?" I've had plenty of upper respiratory infections (though not COVID yet), and only one required a trip to the ER. But if you've ever had an asthma attack, you know how lethal it can feel.


(Nothing to do with anything, but - I once used an asthma attack as a passive form of suicide. The worst attacks I ever had were during my adolescence. During one particular attack - freshman year of high school, I think - I decided I was done being bullied and refused to let my parents take me to the hospital. If I died, I thought, I died. I don't think they ever figured out what I was trying to accomplish. That was a very long time ago, and I'm in no danger of ever trying that again - but I wonder if those who treat asthma encounter others who've tried this.)

as a fellow asthmatic, we should qualify to get the shot.

"I don't want to get sick" doesn't appear to be a risk factor.

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The one who isn't asthmatic?

Or my wife, who's slightly younger than me but also not asthmatic?

It's well and good if I get vaccinated, but COVID vaccines (like the influenza vaccine) are not as effective at stopping disease as other vaccines. My survivability goes way up if I'm vaccinated, but I'd rather not get it at all, and that's best assured if the rest of my family is vaccinated as well.

The whole concept of "herd immunity" seems to mean nothing to those in charge of immunizations.

after bloviating about freedom and choice for the past 5 years.

GD liars.

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be better at preventing both diseases than the stand alone versions.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/modernas-combo-covid-flu-mrna-shot-outperforms-current-vaccines-large-rcna205242

Of course, who knows if the current pathetic version of the FDA will ever approve it?

no problem...but usually my adult disabled daughter (she is attending meetings in cities on both coasts, and we will be traveling as her caregivers) fills out her vaccine info online....but this time her dad did it in-person it (as we waited at the pharmacy), and didn't mark her as immunocompromised (which our daughter would have done if filling it out herself), so the pharmacist kind of prompted her to self-declare. She isn't officially in that category, but has had cancer (spending 5 months in the hospital for treatment), and is quadriplegic, and her primary care provider and hematologist both consider her vulnerable. She did get COVID once (as a delegate to the Dem convention in Chicago!), and took Paxlovid, which helped right away with no rebound, but we hope to avoid another infection, of course. I'm still a NOVID, but my husband and younger daughter have had it, too. My son has never tested positive, but as a very active and about 26-year-old, I think he may just be in the asymptomatic category.

So... I hope people will still be able to self-declare vulnerability, and not have to "prove" it?

I'm glad you are past your suicidal tendencies. High school was rough for me, too, but it was more about family life. (Getting away from my parents made a huge difference in my desire to keep living.)

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Millions of new hosts for C-19 where the virus can grow, maybe be asymptomatic, and
mutate into a new strain of the disease. Since when did being a republican or Christian
Right Wing Evangelical or a Fox News commentator give you knowledge about medicine,
virology, epidemiology, or evolutionary biology?

This is madness.

clinic, Walgreens pharmacy) to give the shot? Will it make it illegal for government-funded insurance (Medicare, Medicaid, ACA) to reimburse people for the cost of the shot? What about private insurance like employer insurance? Again, all this is for so-called non-high-risk groups.

(As for Medicare, age 65-and over are high risk according to this, but Medicare also provides insurance for many disabled people younger than 65).

Suppose as a healthy non-high-risk person, I want the shot
(a) to have a milder infection if I do get Covid, and
(b) so that I will be less likely to spread Covid to others? That I will be less likely to host the next mutation?

Will the advisory panel also recommend punishment for violaters? El Salvador?

Fuck Trump. Fuck Bob Kennedy. And, Fuck his brainworm too.

It is beyond idiotic that I can get a flu shot, and a RSV shot, but not a COVID shot.

But how does it make sense to limit availability. Don't mandate it, don't pay for it. But why couldn't someone willing to pay for it choose to get it, and insurance companies can make their own cost/benefit analysis to decide whether to cover it. Because it's not about any of that, it's about knee jerk opposition AND forcing their views on everyone else. That is the only way they feel like they won, freedom (like everything else to them) is a zero sum game.

Thanks a lot, doofuses.

Or to Mexico.

This is nuts. My co-worker's healthy, long-distance runner spouse, in her early 40s, couldn't even stand up to take a shower MONTHS after she survived a bout with COVID (pre-vaccine).

My 50-ish (Trumper) neighbor had to be airlifted to a hospital that had an ECMO machine. He and his wife would hold backyard parties to prove what a "nothing burger" COVID was and how all the "libs" were behaving hysterically. Then they both got sick, and the husband almost died.

Finally, a very good friend of mine, healthy and in her 40s, died from COVID. Tragically, this was after the COVID-19 vaccine was available. She was not anti-vax, but she was scared of the COVID-19 vaccine due to all the misinformation. Her entire family received the COVID-19 vaccine (husband and 3 kids), and they were trying to help her overcome her fears and get vaccinated. Then she contracted COVID and went downhill so fast it was scary. Last text with her was when she was in the ICU, "I'm fine, they are just trying to get this cough under control". She died the next day.

None of the 3 examples above would qualify for a COVID vaccine under the new FDA rules.

Let's hope they don't remove access to PAXLOVID.

and we're not even in a war or depression (yet). There's no reason for rationing other than spite.

Supposedly it’s mutated to less severe strains for now.. I only know of one person who has gotten the virus in the past few months and he is currently on chemo.

I may have missed something…….is it the cost involved? The whole thing is rediculous.

Yale News (young males)

“When new COVID-19 vaccines were first administered two years ago, public health officials found an increase in cases of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, particularly among young males who had been vaccinated with mRNA vaccines. It was unclear, however, what exactly was causing this reaction.”



In a new study, Yale scientists have identified the immune signature of these heart inflammation cases.

https://news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/yale-study-reveals-insights-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-cases

For that new covid vaccine.

Up until now the feds have provided all of the Covid vaccines at no cost. I expect that to change. Will Medicare/Medicaid cover it? If not, will my supplementary insurance cover it? If not, what is it going to cost out of pocket.

As they say, the devil is in the details.

RFK Junior and his titular boss are complete idiots.

Remember, this is a man who may still have a worm in his brain. Decided that being a heroin addict was a good path to academic success. Just swam in a creek with children near the capital that has been off-limits to swimming for at least 50 years. The water is contaminated with very high amounts of all kinds of nasty bacteria.

This is the kind of person that Trump hires. He’s not looking for competence, but blind loyalty. While he may be getting the loyalty from some of his minions I don’t think he’s getting that from RFK Junior.

This is what you get when you have a president taking his marching orders from an vowed enemy of the United States, Vladimir Putin.

Border check for band-aids?

Inquiring minds want to know
les esprits curieux veulent savoir
Las mentes inquisitivas quieren saber

Am I supposed to feel grateful that I can still get the vaccine when family and some friends cannot? They're playing with people's lives.

The Admin wants to limit vaccine help to seniors so they'll die off.

under 65 with Covid, and meet someone 65 or older, please make it trump and his rethugs.

I know that the first round of covid testing was done in placebo control trials because my oldest child was in the Pfzier trial. Luckily my oldest got the vaccine in this trial. The new rules will make it very difficult to get updated for next fall

A new FDA mandate on Covid boosters means it could be nearly impossible for Pfizer or Moderna to complete new trials in time for the fall season.

— NBC News (@nbcnews.com) 2025-05-20T15:15:10Z

Sick asshole.