And I’m not sure I would trust them to pay me through September- he has a history of not paying people what they are due and what they have earned.

If someone was planning on retiring anyway, why not get a 6 month head start with pay ?

By accepting, they may lose their time-in-service and other long term retirement benefits. I am betting it’s the old fire or get someone to resign in the eighth inning of a nine inning game.

This happens all the time in the private sector and it looks like they want to take it public.

May not end up hiring a replacement however

Buyouts are not legal in civil service. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-trump-federal-workers-buyout_n_6799a2bfe4b09dcf5694ef54

Quote the line item in the budget where this exists.

And where's the new budget?

Nowhere, it doesn't exist yet and funding ends in March 2025.

WTF, MichMan?

Ask twitter employees how their buyout worked out. The language of the Trumpish federal buyout is similar. This is a Musk con.

Resigning is not retiring

really think he will make good on that deal? Don’t trust anything he says because all he does is lie. At least if you get fired you might be able to get unemployment.

Make certain you understand your pension rights before agreeing to anything.

How long is it going to take to hire and train 2 million people?

just burning it all down

I don't know where that confusion is coming from. There are 2 million people being offered this deal. The point is they want everyone working in office 5 days a week and they hope/figure this will get a small percentage of them to quit rather than return to the office full time. They expect at most 10% to take this offer. That's 200,000, not 2 million.

In reality, I expect far less than 10% to take the deal

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/28/trump-buyouts-federal-workers.html
Trump administration offering buyouts to nearly all federal workers

The Trump administration is offering millions of federal workers the option to accept buyouts through a government-wide “deferred resignation” program.

The offers come as President Donald Trump’s administration pushes federal employees to return to the office five days per week.

The White House expects up to 10% of federal employees to take the buyout, an official told NBC News.

that deal? Quit your job, stay home and get paid for 8 months? Just a fraction of people taking that offer would cause problems.

But the point of this is NOT to get rid of the entire federal workforce. Trump announced shortly after the election that they would require ALL employees to work in the office 5 days a week, ending telework. They believed this would cause a large number of people to quit. That didn't happen. So now they came up with this "offer" to try to give an incentive to get more people to quit. I don't think it will work.

he did the same shit in Hungary..............

Time they will be over and done with, forever.

There's no money budgeted for this scheme. So, unless it's in the new budget, which doesn't exist yet, they would maybe get paid until March.

Is that what you are saying?

Because all of these people are currently federal employees, being paid. Right now.

What they are proposing is to allow them to continue to telework as they have been doing so far, at the same rate of pay, until September when they agree to resign with no severance pay.

That means pay through February, at best. It's a scam.

My husband says if that happens, we will probably leave the country.

The goal is to not hire replacements and make it even more intolerable due to workload demands on those who remain...resulting in more resignations.

My husband is a valid source of knowledge because the position he holds is exactly four steps away from the President.

Who works for a federal agency received an email from his union not to sign.

to believe the con man Donald Fucking Trump

than pro-Trump

but yes, they are ALL idiots

She should probably just take the money snd run.

Trump is not only stupid, he’s insane.

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All that Trymp offered is that they can telework until September, then they must leave. They will be paid monthly during that time for their services. And can still be fired during that time. It is a trap.

Plus, lump sum buyouts are illegal. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-trump-federal-workers-buyout_n_6799a2bfe4b09dcf5694ef54

New budget negotiations start in March. A month's pay? Good luck with that.

This isn't covered by any federal funds. It's a scam.

For however many years.

Regime is saying, we will allow you to continue with your present arrangement, until September, at which time you must quit.

How do I know what is going on? My husband is an SES at NNSA and works in the Forrestal building.

And I have no clue what "SES at NNSA" means. I wouldn't be putting all of my eggs in one basket especially when the basket is Donald Trump's.

Regardless, good luck. I hope you have a solid back up plan.

❤️

Security Administration is, if you are curious.

Bottom line is, my husband is four steps away from the President in terms of the chain of command.

But I wouldn’t doubt this regime will cut all funding to all the government, soon.

Yes, we have a good backup plan and about a million and a half in savings which we hope will enable us to move to a lower cost of living nation, and survive. Our passports are valid.

I figure we have as good a hope of surviving as the next person. Which admittedly is maybe not all that good.

NNSA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Nuclear_Security_Administration

SES: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Executive_Service_(United_States)

It's whether or not you both are going to put your lives and futures into the hands of a crook and a psychopath.

All of the money in the world doesn't insure you will be treated fairly or that past promises to you or anyone will be honored going forward.

Besides, if you don't have all that cash cut into incremental scattered amounts when he abolishs the FDIC your circumstances could rapidly change.

But that's not the point. That we are even debating this is nonsensical.

My husband and I both took an oath to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

My husband is doing important work that matters not only to our nation, but to the world as a whole.

Are you advising us to quit and move out of the country now?

To give up the fight and surrender?

Are you advising all of us to quit resisting right now and play dead?

So do you live in the United States? I’m beginning to think perhaps you do not. We do have posters here from foreign nations.

Wouldn't presume so.

My ancestors arrived here before the US was a country. The land that I inherited has been in the family for six generations. I'm not going anywhere.

I'm going to stay and fight. I intend to die trying if necessary.

Like I said earlier, good luck.

Service to America.

I wish you…and all of us….good luck too.

Just admit Trump is running a mob protection racket scheme, telling Americans "hey, too bad if something really bad happens to your country..."

Special incentive program and voluntary early retirement are actual federal programs for trimming the career civil service workforce.

Under them, career civil servants can get a bonus, like around 15k, to retire early. It's usually targeted to specific series that the agency has too many of like clerks, for example. Sometimes there are age and service time eligibility restrictions, too like age 50 with 20 years in. Not sure if there's a pension penalty under FERS like there was under CSRS for retiring under age 55.

Since 2000, the federal workforce has grown modestly, but in 2000 federal workers were serving a population of 281,421,906. Today they are serving a population of well over 331 million. In reality, we need more federal workers, especially at the IRS and the USPS. I suspect many workers will accept this offer because who wants to work for a deranged president.

If you watched Racheal, you know where this comes from, and Vance is all in on the tech bro incel pushing this shit to rip out the government like a tumor. Then make Trump CEO of the country. And we need to end our dictator phobia. All in P2025 as well. We are at war with the billionaires and maybe should declare it to use treason punishment.
Oh right, GQP Congress has to declare. And they are the treasonous ass holes.

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To have a handful of billionaires living in cities with their slaves, and the rest of us turned into biofuel.

Wish I were making that up.

I tried to recall his name. He is a terrorist and should be charged and caged.
Rip him out like a damn tumor, then radiate the fuck out of him, throw in some chemo as well.

they would pay our pension and continue our health insurance until we became 65 and eligible for Medicare.
They filed bankruptcy a month later and I had to pay $800 a month for an almost useless health plan. I wouldn't trust
Trump with a snake.

work under another owner. The other employer was Cleveland Cliffs that eventually closed the plant.
Cleveland Cliffs happens to be the American company that will probably take over US Steel since the sale to
a Japanese company was stopped.

Why did the union contract only cover active workers and didn't cover pensions for retirees?

Do it you POS.........

Russell Voght of Project 2025 said that they planned to put federal civil service workers in a place of deep trauma. Looks like their plan has commenced.0

See https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tim-kaine-warns-federal-employees-against-taking-trumps-buyout-offer-do-not-be-fooled/


"The president has no authority to make that offer. There’s no budget line item to pay people who are not showing up for work. This is a guy who made this promise to contractors again and again and again when he was a private business guy. ‘Oh, come work for me on my casino.’ ‘Come work for me in a hotel.’ ‘We’re going to do a handshake. We’re going to do a contract.’ The contractor does the work. and then finds out they get stiffed.

So my message to federal employees who receive this is, yeah, the president has tried to terrorize you for about a week and then gives you a little sweetheart offer: ‘If you resign in the next week, we’re just going to pay you for doing nothing for the next seven months.’ Don’t be fooled. He’s tricked hundreds of people with that offer. If you accept that offer and resign, he’ll stiff you just like he stiffed the contractors. He doesn’t have any authority to do this. Do not be fooled by this guy."