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riversedge

(73,984 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:03 PM Jan 20

Trump pardons roughly 1,500 criminal defendants charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack

Source: nbc


The sweeping pardons would mark the beginning of the end of one of the largest investigations in FBI history.


Jan. 20, 2025, 6:44 PM CST / Updated Jan. 20, 2025, 6:49 PM CST
By Ryan J. Reilly

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said on Monday that he was issuing roughly 1,500 pardons and commuting the sentences of six of his supporters in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, when thousands of them stormed the building amid his false claims that the 2020 presidential election was rigged against him.

He made the remarks after returning to the White House Monday evening.


An attorney for Enrique Tarrio, the Proud Boys leader convicted of seditious conspiracy, told NBC News on Monday that his client was being processed for release from FCI Pollock, a medium security federal prison in Louisiana. Tarrio was serving 22 years in federal prison after being convicted of seditious conspiracy.

“He is being processed out,” attorney Nayib Hassan said. “We do not know what type of clemency he is receiving."

The pardons would fulfill one of Trump's central campaign promises. Immediately after the Jan. 6 attack, Trump sought to distance himself from the attack, saying that those who broke the law should be held accountable. ..................

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-set-pardon-defendants-stormed-capitol-jan-6-2021-rcna187735



The horrible deed is done!--by the Felon-in-Chief.


damn!!
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Trump pardons roughly 1,500 criminal defendants charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack (Original Post) riversedge Jan 20 OP
This is what will let loose the hatred mobs. They will say tRump has our back as they hurt people. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 20 #1
My daughter lives on Capitol Hill in DC AverageOldGuy Jan 20 #7
There is a good chances charges will be dropped. The Grand Illuminist Jan 20 #23
If my memory holds accurately, Entrapment applies to certain government, not those of private citizens. n/t 24601 Jan 20 #34
Unless her neighbor convinced those guys to go out and get those guns,... LudwigPastorius Jan 20 #36
I think it would only be entrapment razorman03038 Jan 21 #48
You think they will be charged with sitting and chatting? dpibel Jan 21 #55
That is an amazing story! Well done. I trust there will be no revenge. And tRump can't pardon them. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 21 #38
Clever guy, but I have to wonder if... JHB Jan 21 #46
Two of these assholes live in my rural VA county AverageOldGuy Jan 20 #2
Fuck Trump and Fuck Enrique Tarrio. May karma give them both what they deserve. emulatorloo Jan 20 #3
I am empty, nothing left in the tank. bottomofthehill Jan 20 #4
Dems have to follow the law, MAGAs don't. Irish_Dem Jan 20 #5
Hey, SCOTUS declared crime isn't illegal if Trump does it. emulatorloo Jan 20 #8
That's pretty much all of them. What a grotesque insult to the police officers Ocelot II Jan 20 #6
Even his toady Bondi said the violent offenders shouldn't be pardoned. But yeah it really really sucks emulatorloo Jan 20 #10
Looks to me like they have turned our entire Judicial System into a Kangaroo Court for themselves and not for Democrats! ReRe Jan 21 #51
"Back the Blue" is a merchandising grift... EarthFirst Jan 20 #9
Her comes his own little SS and gestapo nt Javaman Jan 20 #11
Of course yellow dahlia Jan 20 #16
All those Garland/DOJ defenders who pointed to these convictions as RockRaven Jan 20 #12
There goes Garland's legacy as AG gab13by13 Jan 20 #14
So now you're blaming Garland for Trump's pardons, too? Ocelot II Jan 20 #21
Garland is a huge reason we have his lowness in the first place. Maybe the primary reason. Lucky Luciano Jan 20 #26
IMHO ReRe Jan 21 #54
All Dems had to do was show up and vote for the black lady Blue_Tires Jan 21 #50
When he makes them his brown shirts, they'll be free to break the law, they know he has their back. dem4decades Jan 20 #13
This not going to end well for shithole............. Lovie777 Jan 20 #15
In all seriousness gab13by13 Jan 20 #17
"The pardon power is not being used as it is supposed to be used." J_William_Ryan Jan 20 #18
Its not just a Trump problem. osteopath6 Jan 20 #28
You can bet some of these assholes will be back in jail before this term of office is in the grave. Historic NY Jan 20 #19
They'll probably get pardoned again. Ocelot II Jan 20 #22
I will never forget or forgive, they are traitors and felons and nothing will change that. republianmushroom Jan 20 #20
mic sucker Marthe48 Jan 20 #24
Every single one should have gotten the death penalty...or at least life at Florence SuperMax. Lucky Luciano Jan 20 #25
no one should get the death penalty. Groundhawg Jan 20 #29
I disagree. The most heinous need to go. Lucky Luciano Jan 20 #32
Criminal defendants? Convicted criminals. bucolic_frolic Jan 20 #27
Correct. The convicted criminals are being pardoned and those who have been indicted whose cases have not been totodeinhere Jan 20 #33
Not that it matters because the slime literally seems to be able to do whatever he wants BUT... Lokee11 Jan 20 #30
Did he pardon those who blamed him personally for leading them to riot keithbvadu2 Jan 20 #31
How did that "bottom up" strategy work out for you, former AG Garland? LudwigPastorius Jan 20 #35
Just like Putin has been pardoning psychopaths, thugs, and miscreants to fight against Ukraine. C0RI0LANUS Jan 20 #37
All criminals bdamomma Jan 21 #39
True Colors Shining Through MayReasonRule Jan 21 #40
he's counting on them helping with his deportation program 4catsmom Jan 21 #41
I hope cops keep tabs on them tonekat Jan 21 #42
Mussolini had his Black Shirts and Trump had his J-6th thugs. Botany Jan 21 #43
Should be mandatory EddieOnTheMesa Jan 21 #44
Enough with the "thin blue line" BS... NT bee_peaceful Jan 21 #45
May they never find decent jobs tonekat Jan 21 #47
Trump says: Aussie105 Jan 21 #49
There was literally ten times more media pundit outrage over Hunter Biden Blue_Tires Jan 21 #52
Just looked on MSNBC,NOTHING spelled out about this on the front page. It should be in huge letters Bengus81 Jan 21 #53
What about the Capitol and Metropolitan police who died? Some of these violent insurrectionists committed murder Rhiannon12866 Jan 21 #56
Roughly?? How about an actual number from DOC? Evolve Dammit Jan 21 #57
Unlike a pardon, a commutation does not forgive the crime blueseas Jan 21 #58
Incredible. Woodwizard Jan 22 #59

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,062 posts)
1. This is what will let loose the hatred mobs. They will say tRump has our back as they hurt people. . . . nt
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jan 20

AverageOldGuy

(2,366 posts)
7. My daughter lives on Capitol Hill in DC
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:10 PM
Jan 20

She said there have been crowds of Proud Boys roaming around all day.


After midnight on Jan 6, she heard voices in the alley behind her townhouse. Called the guy next door, they investigated, found two lost J6ers wandering around, both with pistols.

The guy next door "sympathized" with them, invited them into his place for coffee, bathroom break, etc. Told my daughter to call the DC cops and tell them to respond silently -- no lights, no siren -- while he kept the assholes busy in his place. Within 10 minutes, 9 cops were there -- talk about some surprised assholes when all 9 of them walked in, stuffed and cuffed and hauled them off. Daughter and guy next door high-fived all the cops.

Maybe she'll get that lucky again tonight.

24601

(4,045 posts)
34. If my memory holds accurately, Entrapment applies to certain government, not those of private citizens. n/t
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 10:09 PM
Jan 20

razorman03038

(25 posts)
48. I think it would only be entrapment
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 01:28 PM
Jan 21

if the government does it. Like censorship. Private citizens have much more leeway. Rightfully so.

dpibel

(3,487 posts)
55. You think they will be charged with sitting and chatting?
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 04:52 PM
Jan 21

As another poster notes, private parties can't entrap.

But I'd be interested in having you point out to me how this story involves the citizens tempting the criminals into committing a crime. That's the essence of entrapment, after all.

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,062 posts)
38. That is an amazing story! Well done. I trust there will be no revenge. And tRump can't pardon them. . . . . nt
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 08:12 AM
Jan 21

JHB

(37,543 posts)
46. Clever guy, but I have to wonder if...
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 01:04 PM
Jan 21

...those two (once they're out of police custody) or their friends will pay him a very unfriendly visit.

AverageOldGuy

(2,366 posts)
2. Two of these assholes live in my rural VA county
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jan 20

I'll say not more anything else would get me banned.

emulatorloo

(45,709 posts)
3. Fuck Trump and Fuck Enrique Tarrio. May karma give them both what they deserve.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:06 PM
Jan 20

Oh almost forgot, Fuck the Roberts SCOTUS for declaring that Trump is above the law.

emulatorloo

(45,709 posts)
8. Hey, SCOTUS declared crime isn't illegal if Trump does it.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:10 PM
Jan 20

Hope it bites them in the ass when Trump revokes the US Constitution thru “Executive Orders.”

Ocelot II

(122,383 posts)
6. That's pretty much all of them. What a grotesque insult to the police officers
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:08 PM
Jan 20

who tried to defend the Capitol and the people in it, and the investigators and prosecutors and grand juries and judges and juries who handled those cases, and the waste of millions of our dollars, and the whole notion that it's not OK to try to overturn elections. We knew he was going to do this but it sucks hard enough to bend light.

emulatorloo

(45,709 posts)
10. Even his toady Bondi said the violent offenders shouldn't be pardoned. But yeah it really really sucks
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:14 PM
Jan 20

ReRe

(11,056 posts)
51. Looks to me like they have turned our entire Judicial System into a Kangaroo Court for themselves and not for Democrats!
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 02:14 PM
Jan 21

RockRaven

(16,721 posts)
12. All those Garland/DOJ defenders who pointed to these convictions as
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:16 PM
Jan 20

evidence that they were too doing stuff... Well how did that turn out, huh?

ReRe

(11,056 posts)
54. IMHO
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:50 PM
Jan 21
Who lands in the AG post and who lands in the Administration Agency posts can not be of more importance. And I never really thought of this until now. Justice flows from the top to the bottom of each of these Depts/Agency leaders.. Just as it does from the President. I do believe in my heart that AG Garland did lean too far to the right, proven by the gap of time that was allowed to pass before the Prosecution of Trump was allowed to proceed. Had the Prosecution begun 6 months after Biden entered office, Trump would have been well into deep do do by Primary time Yes, Trump could have run maybe from jail (?), but he would be in jail serving out some serious sentences & waiting for more by election time. Everything flows from the top down. And here we are. Hoping and praying that those elected by The People in our government will be able to curb some of the wickedness that appears to getting ready to befall the USA as a whole. From within and form without.

Can Democracy hold back Oligarchy? Or will Oligarchy roll over Democracy? I think they have one up on Democracy right now, by the freeing of 1,500 hardened criminals who might have killed some people and tried to tear the Capital down. I know Trump did allot more damage yesterday, as he was floated from spot to spot signing Exec Orders, but freeing his 1,500 Coup fighters was the most violent. I just wonder if they will be the ones armed & suited up in riot gear when the protests start?

When something as tragic as this happens, we have to figure out what went wrong, Ocelot.
 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
50. All Dems had to do was show up and vote for the black lady
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 02:01 PM
Jan 21

But clearly that was too much to ask...

dem4decades

(12,143 posts)
13. When he makes them his brown shirts, they'll be free to break the law, they know he has their back.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:18 PM
Jan 20

J_William_Ryan

(2,374 posts)
18. "The pardon power is not being used as it is supposed to be used."
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:26 PM
Jan 20

True.

But Trump’s a fascist – fascists are infamous for abuse of power.

osteopath6

(153 posts)
28. Its not just a Trump problem.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 09:27 PM
Jan 20

Has the power to pardon been used as intended in more than a handful of cases? Allowing anyone to overrule a peer justice system is dangerous. Not allowing them too, is, dangerous.

The legal system is pretty poor. Whether its these guys or any number of other people incarcerated, I don't personally know anyone who will say with confidence that our current system works.

And what does works even mean?

Are we restoring the victim?
Retraining the offender?
Exacting crude punishment just because?

My own preference is a mix of the first two, with a healthy serving of "public interest" taken into consideration.

The flurry of prosecutions looked to many how the Hunter Biden persecution was.. they started with a person and found the crimes to confirm their belief they must be guilty of something if only they looked hard enough. That's also wrong.

Historic NY

(38,306 posts)
19. You can bet some of these assholes will be back in jail before this term of office is in the grave.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:32 PM
Jan 20

republianmushroom

(18,608 posts)
20. I will never forget or forgive, they are traitors and felons and nothing will change that.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:40 PM
Jan 20

You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig.

Lucky Luciano

(11,551 posts)
32. I disagree. The most heinous need to go.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 09:52 PM
Jan 20

Trying to end the USA is pretty tops as heinous goes.

totodeinhere

(13,456 posts)
33. Correct. The convicted criminals are being pardoned and those who have been indicted whose cases have not been
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 10:01 PM
Jan 20

finalized yet will now have their cases dismissed. What a fucking outrage.

Lokee11

(259 posts)
30. Not that it matters because the slime literally seems to be able to do whatever he wants BUT...
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 09:40 PM
Jan 20

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Did he not just give aid or comfort to convicted insurrectionists?

I mean maybe he was not found guilty of being an insurrectionists, but they were and with his action did he not just at the very least provide aid or comfort, is that not a direct violation of the 14th Sec 3?

What am I thinking - the constitution actually being followed - silly silly me

✊FDT!

C0RI0LANUS

(2,580 posts)
37. Just like Putin has been pardoning psychopaths, thugs, and miscreants to fight against Ukraine.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 11:06 PM
Jan 20

No good came of it for innocent Russians that were later victimized by these further crazed soldiers.

These pardoned racists from the Proud Boys and Patriot Movement will be hurting people (immigrants, LGBTQ, and minorities) in the future, bet on it.


Links:

https://www.ft.com/content/82748bdd-5b34-4204-b3ad-d08da2c58982

https://www.dw.com/en/back-from-the-front-why-do-russian-soldiers-continue-to-kill/a-69367465

bdamomma

(67,218 posts)
39. All criminals
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 09:24 AM
Jan 21

being processed out by the biggest criminal in the WH. Sickening, we are no longer a lawful country.

4catsmom

(411 posts)
41. he's counting on them helping with his deportation program
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 09:42 AM
Jan 21

these people will do anything for their cult leader

Botany

(72,922 posts)
43. Mussolini had his Black Shirts and Trump had his J-6th thugs.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 11:26 AM
Jan 21

Welcome to Fascism.

Btw thank you Merrick Garland you made this all possible.



This man is getting out? We are truly fucked.

EddieOnTheMesa

(67 posts)
44. Should be mandatory
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 12:06 PM
Jan 21

Every one of those TRAITORS should be made to wear a Scarlet T so we know who they really are.

tonekat

(2,100 posts)
47. May they never find decent jobs
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 01:22 PM
Jan 21

They can clean toilets. Work at rendering plants. Empty septic tanks.

May they be harassed the rest of their miserable lives.

May they pay dearly for their crimes.

Aussie105

(6,612 posts)
49. Trump says:
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jan 21

They aren't criminals, they are just naughty boys!

Besides, they are my type of criminals, so they are excused!

I'm sure they will all go home to mommy, have their milk and cookies, and behave real nice from now on.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
52. There was literally ten times more media pundit outrage over Hunter Biden
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:04 PM
Jan 21

But Donnie has been 100% normalized so it's pretty much impossible for him to shock or outrage anyone...

Bengus81

(7,712 posts)
53. Just looked on MSNBC,NOTHING spelled out about this on the front page. It should be in huge letters
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:17 PM
Jan 21

Rhiannon12866

(226,833 posts)
56. What about the Capitol and Metropolitan police who died? Some of these violent insurrectionists committed murder
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 05:04 PM
Jan 21

blueseas

(11,655 posts)
58. Unlike a pardon, a commutation does not forgive the crime
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 07:54 PM
Jan 21

Presidents have the power to commute sentences of people convicted of federal crimes, which could reduce or eliminate a prison sentence. Unlike a pardon, a commutation does not forgive the crime nor does it restore the recipient’s civil rights.

Woodwizard

(1,101 posts)
59. Incredible.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:02 AM
Jan 22

The right has used bashing bail reform here in NY as a major campaign message. But beating cops, breaking windows, stealing capitol documents and equipment, smearing shit on the walls of our most important building in our country is perfectly fine.

Dealing with my maga in laws is going to be a severe strain on my self control.

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