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BumRushDaShow

(145,348 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 03:12 PM Wednesday

Trump voters 'going to get brutally scammed' by 'terrible' economic ideas: Paul Krugman

Source: The Hill

01/15/25 2:52 PM ET


Economist Paul Krugman argues that voters who cast ballots for President-elect Trump’s “terrible” economic agenda are going to get “brutally scammed.” Krugman joined The New Republic’s podcast “The Daily Blast” for an episode that aired Tuesday, where he discussed Trump’s major economic overhaul plans, including hiking up tariffs on international trading partners and cutting taxes for some Americans.

“Trump has really radical policy ideas,” Krugman said. “I, obviously, think they’re terrible.” Krugman, a Nobel laureate and longtime New York Times columnist, argued that the U.S. economy is doing well in its post-pandemic recovery, even as Americans consistently said they didn’t think the same. He also argued that people’s perceptions of the economy shift based on whether the president is a member of their preferred party.

“We see this immediately switch in economic sentiment among Democrats and Republicans, where Republicans now say the economy is great, Democrats now say they’re worried about inflation and the impact that could result from Trump’s policies,” Krugman said. “We suddenly switched from a plurality of people saying they were worse off, which wasn’t true, but that’s what people felt, to a plurality saying that they’re better off, which I think is, again Republicans saying ‘Oh, now that Trump is president-elect everything is great,’” he added later.

Krugman said a lot of people who voted for Trump, and small business owners specifically, are “going to get brutally scammed” by the proposed economic plan and the current outlook on the economy. “Small business people are the people that he’s all through his life hired as contractors and then not paid, right?” he said. “Scamming people like that is what his whole life has been around.”

Read more: https://thehill.com/business/5087581-krugman-trump-economic-policy/

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ck4829

(36,238 posts)
2. Yep. Pretty sure we're about to see the greatest example of sunk-cost fallacy in human history though
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 03:20 PM
Wednesday

They will not believe they are scammed, they will double down in them.

At the other side of this, the years 2025-2029 will go down as the perfect textbook example.

Dave Bowman

(4,082 posts)
3. If only his followers had to pay the price...
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 04:09 PM
Wednesday

But the whole freaking world is going to suffer.

Mz Pip

(27,954 posts)
6. It's not like no one warned them.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 04:35 PM
Wednesday

We’ve been steaming how gad this will be ever since Trump announced what he has planned.

I have no sympathy for them. It’s just unfortunate that the rest of us have to endure the results of their stupidity.

FakeNoose

(36,213 posts)
7. It will happen to ALL of us, not just MAGAs
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 04:36 PM
Wednesday

The difference is ... we saw it coming before the election. We saw through Chump's lies and bullshit. The MAGAs could have seen it too, if they'd been willing to listen. So it WILL BE a scam from their point of view. They are walking into it totally unprepared. Many of those small businesses are going to fail in the next couple of years.

Thanks Paul Krugman for explaining this so well. I'm pretty sure the MAGAs still aren't listening.

KS Toronado

(19,986 posts)
8. In a way I'd like to see tsf ruin the economy so bad
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 04:49 PM
Wednesday

that for the first time in over 50 years repugs finally wake up to the gas-lighting and realize that
they are actually screwing themselves voting R and it kills the reQublican party for 20/30 years.

Nasruddin

(891 posts)
10. Lies about everything
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 05:40 PM
Wednesday

Remember Trump lies about everything. What he doesn't get around to lying about, he usually has no idea how to do anyway. There's a fairly good chance that the next few days will be the most accomplished days of the second Trump administration & it will start going downhill immediately on the 20th. There's also a fairly good chance that very little of substance will change, even tho the circus act will be completely different.

Justice matters.

(7,654 posts)
12. They won't go lower, only higher as tariffs will be imposed.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 08:02 PM
Wednesday

25% tariffs... will kill the economy for 4 years (minimum).

BadgerMom

(3,012 posts)
13. "...people's perceptions of the economy shift based on whether the president is a member of their preferred party."
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:26 PM
Wednesday

Those perceptions are a direct result of what Fox has told them. Americans were better able to perceive what the economy did when they made their own decisions and didn’t allow Murdock to make decisions for them.

DallasNE

(7,620 posts)
15. I Disagree With Krugman, But Only By Degrees (Economic Issue Only)
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:08 AM
Yesterday

I say that because we have faced Trump One already and have seen the result. I have to say I was partially wrong with Trump One. The Trump tariffs did not add as much inflation as I expected and there were a decent number of jobs created before Covid-19. This time the tariffs are cranked up more and will have a greater impact but still not as much as Krugman expects. There will be more headwinds for the job market and inflation as well, again not as much as Krugman expects. There are risks in the Middle East and Ukraine that can throw a monkey wrench into things as well now that we no longer have a steady hand on the wheel. In fact, this could get really volatile - even with the peace deal announced today, as that thing is super fragile.

I agree completely with Krugman on how perceptions flip-flop depending on which party holds the presidency. I also agree with his comment about Trump having a lifetime of scamming people and that is not about to change. Indeed, Trump Two is a whole lot more unstable than Trump One was, so look out. Plus, he now has complete immunity. Same with his (and Musk's) massive conflict of interest.

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