So - once again - let's take something fairly hum-drum and banal ... And attempt to turn it into tinder! Yay!

as the nominee, I think President Biden is in a small minority of those that think he could have or would have won. But, we’ll never know. I certainly dont begrudge him having his opinion.

Harris basically ended up running Biden’s campaign (as I would have done too in her shoes), so the major change was “who” was running. I think her being younger, a female, and a minority were pluses on the whole, so she was an improvement in electability over Biden. And we still lost. I dont know that any other plausible option would have won either.

I so hated he had to be encouraged/told/forced/“whatever it was” to leave the race. However, I was pretty pessimistic at the time. And given the circumstance at the time, Harris was probably the best option. Her selection buoyed my spirits and hope for a while until the media turned on her after the presidential and VP debates.

Just my opinion…

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After the first debate the establishment basically said it was President Biden's choice to make if he were staying in the race. He publicly said he was. The establishment then said we will give him time to make his choice. He then sent a 'dear collogues' letter again saying he was staying in the race. The establishment responded again, we will give him time to make the right choice. A few days later and elected Democrats were calling for him to drop out.

Now I think it was ALSO hubris on his part to even run for reelection but the way it played out was not a good look at all.

The only Democrat ever to defeat Trump, iirc . . .

Running this time with the advantages of incumbency . . .

Pushing Joe out was a big fucking mistake, IMDFHO.

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It’s been flogged on GD for days.

Some people here ripped the story, saying "Anonymous sources, I'll believe it when I hear it from Biden myself!" Welp, now you've heard it.

Jmho, but Biden likely would have picked off some of the blue collar union workers who went to Trump, some of the old white voters who saw themselves in Biden, of which there are many in Pennsylvania, and all of the Dems who weren't that excited about Biden would've marched to the polls and voted for him anyway.

I do find it interesting that karma has done a little payback to those who pushed out Biden out. Pelosi broke her hip. Uncontrolled wildfires are ripping through some of the wealthiest parts of LA county where many of the folks who withheld campaign contributions live.

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