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Polybius

(18,921 posts)
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:09 PM Jan 8

Fetterman compares Trump's Greenland talk to Louisiana Purchase

Source: ABC News

Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) compared President-elect Trump’s talk of acquiring Greenland to the Louisiana Purchase.

Fetterman joined Fox News, alongside Sen. Katie Britt (R-Ala.), on Tuesday to discuss the concern surrounding Trump’s call to acquire the Danish territory as he prepares to take office again.

“There’s a lot of talk about Greenland, for example, and … there’s a lot of freak-outs and of course, I would never support taking it by force,” Fetterman said.

He continued, noting it would be a “responsible conversation” to discuss acquisition, including “just buying it out.”

Read more: https://www.abc27.com/news/fetterman-compares-trumps-greenland-talk-to-louisiana-purchase/amp/




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Fetterman compares Trump's Greenland talk to Louisiana Purchase (Original Post) Polybius Jan 8 OP
He has totally lost his mind. PittBlue Jan 8 #1
The stroke must have done more brain damage than we realized. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #5
Yup! Botany Jan 8 #9
There are only so many reasons for such a dramatic change. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #12
We met him a couple times at fund raisers when he was running for Lt. Governor. PittBlue Jan 8 #15
to me it sounds like Putin talking about Ukraine rurallib Jan 8 #2
It is exactly the same. We must invade other countries for national security reasons. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #8
We are told there is no money for SS, Medicare, education and healthcare. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #3
He probably thinks there's untold riches...... SergeStorms Jan 8 #42
Yes and he knows it will all go into his personal accounts. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #43
One way or another, you're correct. SergeStorms Jan 8 #48
The corruption seems to be right out in the open now. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #49
God, I hope Shapiro primaries him in 2028. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 8 #4
Hey fetterman....danish government has already said, Greenland is NOT for sale...what don't you get? PortTack Jan 8 #6
Nothing to talk about LearnedHand Jan 8 #7
Before his stroke he was a strong liberal, now he's a wet Willy. Linda ladeewolf Jan 8 #10
What is going on with him? madaboutharry Jan 8 #11
Acquiring Greenland does make sense USAFRetired_Liberal Jan 8 #13
There are no valid reasons atreides1 Jan 8 #18
Exactly! Shipwack Jan 8 #22
I heard that France is wanting to buy-back the Louisiana Purchase Seinan Sensei Jan 8 #23
This is one of the stupid things Trump does jgmiller Jan 8 #26
He'll claim that China (CHY-na) is planning to take it by force, so he is must act now to protect U.S. security. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 8 #39
The potentials are terrifying, some more probable than not..... electric_blue68 Jan 8 #46
agreed Groundhawg Jan 8 #29
Really? Cirsium Jan 8 #45
Why is ANYONE discussing acquiring other people's countries??? LearnedHand Jan 8 #55
What is wrong claudette Jan 8 #14
They turned down snowybirdie Jan 8 #16
Who payed him to say that ? mucifer Jan 8 #17
The stroke completely changed his personality. Basso8vb Jan 8 #19
He's officially gone around the bend Ritabert Jan 8 #20
Read post Rebl2 Jan 8 #47
Fetterman is not a well man. Paladin Jan 8 #21
Did they remove his brain when he was in the hospital? nt TBF Jan 8 #24
In that France claimed the S.E. U.S. in spite of Marthe48 Jan 8 #25
Exactly right - there's no comparison between Greenland and the Louisiana Purchase FakeNoose Jan 8 #38
Fetterman is deluded. Trump is talking about invading, not purchasing. Fool. ZonkerHarris Jan 8 #27
Ok before I was amenable qazplm135 Jan 8 #28
Well... Mike Nelson Jan 8 #30
Until he eventually follows that up with anything short of a nuke strike is not force. spudspud Jan 8 #35
The Dems need LPBBEAR Jan 8 #31
Recall Tetrachloride Jan 8 #32
The sooner, the better. (nt) Paladin Jan 8 #41
There is no recall provision in Pennsylvania's constitution Deminpenn Jan 9 #57
regardless of the law, the east coast people can sit on their hands or not Tetrachloride Jan 9 #60
the guy is a DINO purr-rat beauty Jan 8 #33
Either he was always a Rethug mole or the stroke completely changed his personality and thinking. spudspud Jan 8 #34
I guess all of fat orange marmalade man's past (and future) crimes are A-OK with him wolfie001 Jan 8 #36
This guy went stupid. Best to ignore him now. Wingus Dingus Jan 8 #37
Many years ago, my late husband had a stroke. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 8 #40
If that's the case, we can't even get mad at him Polybius Jan 8 #54
Another Sinema Miguelito Loveless Jan 8 #44
Unfortunately a stroke can (not always) change a person's personality permanently.... electric_blue68 Jan 8 #50
I know we are not supposed to speak ill of a democrat on this site endgenocide Jan 8 #51
Shut the fuck up, Fetterman. paleotn Jan 8 #52
But wasn't France a willing seller? keithbvadu2 Jan 8 #53
I think we might learn about strokes from him n/t BlueSpot Jan 9 #56
I will be surprised if Fetterman runs for a second term Deminpenn Jan 9 #58
It appears Fetterman had taken the D's for a ride. Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 9 #59

Irish_Dem

(62,086 posts)
5. The stroke must have done more brain damage than we realized.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:13 PM
Jan 8

Or something much more nefarious.

PittBlue

(4,425 posts)
15. We met him a couple times at fund raisers when he was running for Lt. Governor.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:25 PM
Jan 8

He was actually quite charming but I think the stroke took a big toll on him.

Irish_Dem

(62,086 posts)
8. It is exactly the same. We must invade other countries for national security reasons.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jan 8

Same reason China has to invade the Taiwan.

Trump is trying to normalize brutal invasions.

Irish_Dem

(62,086 posts)
3. We are told there is no money for SS, Medicare, education and healthcare.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:12 PM
Jan 8

But we have the money to "buy out" entire foreign countries.

SergeStorms

(19,373 posts)
42. He probably thinks there's untold riches......
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:11 PM
Jan 8

to be gained from natural resource that could be found there. Everything is melting, right? 😉

Might as well drill, baby, drill.

SergeStorms

(19,373 posts)
48. One way or another, you're correct.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:44 PM
Jan 8

Either directly or from kickbacks, the Big Orange Pig doesn't do anything unless it benefits him in some way.

Irish_Dem

(62,086 posts)
49. The corruption seems to be right out in the open now.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:50 PM
Jan 8

But yes I am sure the public bribes are just a drop in the bucket.
Add the kickbacks, extortion, blackmail money.

PortTack

(35,104 posts)
6. Hey fetterman....danish government has already said, Greenland is NOT for sale...what don't you get?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:13 PM
Jan 8

Not to mention that the ppl of Greenland don’t want it!

Geez!

LearnedHand

(4,347 posts)
7. Nothing to talk about
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jan 8

Both Denmark and Greenland have said it's not for sale ever. "Conversation" concluded. I think that stroke broke Fetterman's brain. 😭

Linda ladeewolf

(567 posts)
10. Before his stroke he was a strong liberal, now he's a wet Willy.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:16 PM
Jan 8

It’s scary when you think about it. I wonder if he treats his wife differently. She’s is such a sweet person.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,363 posts)
13. Acquiring Greenland does make sense
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:20 PM
Jan 8

From a national security, strategic, and economic perspective, there are valid reasons for considering Greenland as a U.S. territory. However, Trump’s approach to the idea was utterly absurd. Sending his son there with MAGA hats, antagonizing an ally, and even hinting at taking it by force is beyond ridiculous. Trump’s interest in Greenland had nothing to do with its strategic importance or the well-being of its people. He likely saw it as an opportunity to exploit resources for personal gain and to benefit his billionaire friends, like Elon Musk. That’s the kind of response Fetterman should have offered—calling out Trump’s self-serving motivations while still acknowledging the strategic value of Greenland.

atreides1

(16,474 posts)
18. There are no valid reasons
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jan 8

For spitting in the face of an ally, by threatening to use military force against them!

The term "National Security" is what the US has used for every BS war it's gotten into since WWII.

Those words have allowed the US to crawl into bed with tyrants and dictators, those words allowed a Catholic Bishop to be murdered in his own church, allowed a group of American nuns to be raped and murdered, allowed the wanton slaughter of innocent men, women and children!!!

Shipwack

(2,392 posts)
22. Exactly!
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:49 PM
Jan 8

There are many things in the world that would be nice to have or occur. We can acknowledge that.

It things that would be nice are often impossible or unlikely to occur. A responsible adult knows this and makes realistic plans, and not spend time on wishful fantasies.

Yes, Greenland is strategically positioned and has many valuable resources. How to get access to them?
1) Ask them to join us
2) Buy it
3) Take them over by force

4) Be a good ally to them so that they allow us to build bases there and gives us access to their minerals, etc…

Sure, you can briefly consider 1-3 for the sake of covering all angles, but don’t bother to say them out loud, especially in public!
::SMH::

Seinan Sensei

(791 posts)
23. I heard that France is wanting to buy-back the Louisiana Purchase
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:49 PM
Jan 8

(There are no fact-checkers here, right?)

jgmiller

(470 posts)
26. This is one of the stupid things Trump does
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:53 PM
Jan 8

Someone probably talked to him about all of the resources Greenland has and how it would be great if we controlled it and how bad it would be if say Russia or China did. From there he turned bits and pieces into some kind of insane thing where we have to have it and we will take it.

As you said logically the US having Greenland is a no brainer but that doesn't mean it's possible or logical to do it. Something can be based in fact and still be unrealistic.

39. He'll claim that China (CHY-na) is planning to take it by force, so he is must act now to protect U.S. security.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:26 PM
Jan 8

Does that sound vaguely like Putin and Ukraine?

He's not even in office and he's scaring the shit out of everybody. What's he going to do once Biden hands him the keys to the kingdom? How long before he sets off a nuke, just to let the rest of the world know The Big Dawg is back?

Ignore Felon47 at your peril.

Elections have consequences.

electric_blue68

(19,552 posts)
46. The potentials are terrifying, some more probable than not.....
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:05 PM
Jan 8

As an extra visual person, former graphic designer, still an artist; just have to say I laughed (don't know if I've seen it elsewhere) sering your visual representation of how he says....
"China". (CHY-na)
You captured his *annoying pronunciation perfectly!

*oh, if we only had this level of disturbance, and not the Hellstorm that's approaching!


Cirsium

(1,480 posts)
45. Really?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:48 PM
Jan 8

Could it not just as easily be said that from a national security, strategic, and economic perspective, there are valid reasons for considering everywhere and anywhere as possible U.S. territory?

LearnedHand

(4,347 posts)
55. Why is ANYONE discussing acquiring other people's countries???
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 10:40 PM
Jan 8

There is no scenario where this makes a lick of sense. I don't care how strategic it is, this is a fucking stupid thing to even casually consider. IT'S NOT UP FOR THE TAKING. Since when do we go all colonial on our fucking allies??? Or any sovereign nation for that matter? Russia and Israel do stupid shit like this, but I guess I wrongly believed the "enlightened" US was out of its colonization period.

claudette

(4,826 posts)
14. What is wrong
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:22 PM
Jan 8

with him? When did he turn magat? Dump is no different from Putin who thinks he can reclaim land that was once part of the USSR. Doesn’t Fetterman see that?

snowybirdie

(5,788 posts)
16. They turned down
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:26 PM
Jan 8

$100000000 or something like that years ago. Where will be get the funds for a purchase? From the residents of Pennsylvania, Senator?

Paladin

(29,229 posts)
21. Fetterman is not a well man.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jan 8

It's just a matter of time before he's confronted about continued public service. There's a new Fetterman outrage story, practically every day now.

Marthe48

(19,816 posts)
25. In that France claimed the S.E. U.S. in spite of
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:51 PM
Jan 8

Native Americans living on the land and Europeans claimed Greenland in spite of Native Americans/Eskimos living on the land, and both areas of geography ended up having the native people displaced for European gain, yes, trying to buy Greenland is comparable.

But France (Napolean) sold their ill-gotten land in s.e. U.S. to get some money to finance Napolean's European aims. He wasn't interested in developing such a far-off land. Greenland, on the other hand, doesn't want to change hands. Things have changed in 218 years. Does PA want Kuwait to but it?

And finally, what is in the works that we are being diverted from knowing?

FakeNoose

(36,384 posts)
38. Exactly right - there's no comparison between Greenland and the Louisiana Purchase
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:01 PM
Jan 8

Completely different situations, and Fetterman knows it too. The guy has 2 masters degrees, he isn't stupid.
I think he's playing some game with the Repukes.

qazplm135

(7,610 posts)
28. Ok before I was amenable
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jan 8

to the idea that Fetterman was trying to find the center in PA for his next election run but this nonsense has me thinking he's on his way to full on Trump support.

At least Manchin was clear he wasn't a Trumper, and WV was way redder than PA.

This stuff simply isn't required for him to win in PA so something else is going on.

Mike Nelson

(10,444 posts)
30. Well...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jan 8

... there is a sign of sanity in his statement, "...of course, I would never support taking it by force." Signs of good mental health are worth celebrating!

Tetrachloride

(8,528 posts)
60. regardless of the law, the east coast people can sit on their hands or not
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 09:33 AM
Jan 9

they can be as forthright as Merrick Garland

or as meek as Steve Bannon

spudspud

(575 posts)
34. Either he was always a Rethug mole or the stroke completely changed his personality and thinking.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jan 8

wolfie001

(3,963 posts)
36. I guess all of fat orange marmalade man's past (and future) crimes are A-OK with him
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:52 PM
Jan 8

Boggles the mind.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,214 posts)
40. Many years ago, my late husband had a stroke.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:29 PM
Jan 8

It was pretty nasty, but there are no "good" ones. While he was still in the hospital, the social worker there took me aside to let me know what types of changes to expect. This one stood out...she told me that if he had a particularly strong personality trait, one of two things would happen. It would intensify, or completely do a 180 and reverse.

Fetterman's recent comments make me think he did a 180.

electric_blue68

(19,552 posts)
50. Unfortunately a stroke can (not always) change a person's personality permanently....
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 06:05 PM
Jan 8

Sometimes increased aggressiveness can happen but just for a while.

I saw this from Australian medical.
It seems so far that he's changed, and not for the better!

Sorry, Pennsylvanians!

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,954 posts)
59. It appears Fetterman had taken the D's for a ride.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:49 AM
Jan 9

He seems a bit more conservative and contrary than I am comfortable with.............

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