I just figured our alcohol lobby was too strong in the US

Sweetened coffee creamer and sodas contribute to pancreatic cancer as well.
Just about everything not used in moderation can kill us.

Just varying in the concentration of known or suspected carcinogens.

However, there are likewise questions over even the most limited pesticide residues and additives in animal feed. Likewise, wild-caught fish have some level of potentially carcinogenic contaminants, including methylmercury, other heavy metals, PCBs, and others.

So, best to eat a wide variety of fresh (as possible) foods and all else in moderation... Easy enough for the very poor living in food deserts... NOT! sigh...

But, I do not oppose a warning label on alcohol. They are already there for other risks.

The thing about pancreatic cancer is that once it’s detected, it’s usually too late to treat.

one we generally fear diagnosing most.

10 days after becoming sick but then that was 1973. No real problem but a little coughing, nothing unusual, and then he turned yellow and died.

But I want to go fast when my time comes.

It was a blessing. My Mother went crazy and would not let me or my brothers see him then told me he was dead in a grocery store. I was not prepared for that certainly. My solid directions to my family is put me down as soon as it looks like I will not recover. Dig a hole at the farm and bury my ashes with my long gone critters then sell the place and move on. We are here then we are gone.

As to easier? Yes and no. I am the only one left, my youngest brother was found dead a couple of months ago. KInda odd being the only one left.

That was with treatment.

He was heavy drinker.

And Pepsi/Coke vending machines?

I do not like feeling light-headed, therefore, I stop in imbibing for hours after a few sips of a mixed drink.

For a few years now, there have been news articles reporting that not even a moderate level of alcohol consumption is harmless.

Lately, there has been talk of some alcohol drinkers revealing themselves to be "dry-curious." Over the years, some of those drinkers have pledged to a dry January, but went back to imbibing in February. The term "dry-curious" refers to trying temperance long term.

But, I did pass the info on to my grandchildren, who likely do the 'gummy' thing more than drinking.

You might (eventually) die.

are my favorites. We have inflammation because something like The Blob grows within? Small wonder.

The majority of the cancer patients that I cared for were head, neck, esophagus and stomach cancer sufferers. Many were surprised to learn about the contribution alcohol likely made to their illnesses.

I'm glad this may finally be happening. Maybe in 10 or 20 years it will have made a difference.

It's shocking to me the number of young people today who are using alcohol with little concern about their health. Alcohol use is being glamorized and advertised as a status symbol when it is responsible for more expansive and pervasive suffering than any other drug.

Once you become a pickle, you can never be a cucumber again.

they all drink "in moderation" which to them is probably a couple of glasses of wine a day, with meals.

OTOH what an opportunity for health absolutists to take virtuous potshots at the rest of us.

We are learning more about it with the mapping of the human genome as a basis for study. But many factors play a role in the development of malignancies.

For example, it's been discovered that some cancers apparently lie dormant in the body and only develop malignancies when triggered by an infection with a virus, fungus or other microbes.

There are many factors at play.

If you're interested:
List of countries by cancer rate
France and the United States are in the top ten if you exclude non-melanoma skin cancer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cancer_rate

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Cancer Researchers would take issue with your "not well understood". A great deal has been learned in the last 50 years.

Revised, disputed, and disproven all together. Like all scientific inquiries, there's always something new to discover, and some things believed to be true that may be found to be false.

Fifty years isn't very long, considering how long cancer has been a known entity. I would argue that it's a gross underestimate. I'd say that on balance, there's more left to learn than what is already known.

than the US. I found that interesting.

I have heard about their little saying "Oh, ma foie!"

About 10% more of the population: 35% in France vs 25% here.

But their mortality rate of those diagnosed is higher. That's what I found interesting, especially since they have better health care.

While junk food and drink suppliers sail happily on, not to mention gun manufacturers.

What a joke this country is.

Screaming into the void, Dr. Murthy. The incoming Congress won't pass a labelling bill, ever ever ever, and he knows it.

Everything gives us cancer. The sun gives us cancer.

n/t

Than I am about the small amount of alcohol I consume.

We can try to eliminate all the possible risks and guess what? People still get cancer. Non-smokers get lung cancer, etc.

I get it's about risk management, but it comes across as the New Prohibition, which backfired spectacularly the first time.

Queen Elizabeth II had a Martini every day until she was 95.

She didn't have 3 (which is where my local steakhouse cuts people off).

could cause colon cancer. My Dad died fron cirrhosis of the liver and colon cancer, age 54. His diet was mainly beef and whiskey.

Turns out I get PACs, premature atrial contractions, and it's no biggie because it doesn't affect my heart rhythm.

We talked about my diet etc and he remarked that "we consider alcohol cardiotoxic". I suppressed a laugh but I take doctors seriously so I researched it later at home. Turns out the medical community have walked back that Harvard "study" that concluded that people who are light drinkers live longer than non drinkers, and have further concluded that alcohol in any amount is not good for your heart and circulatory system.

good for heart and circulation. So which is it?

I give up. Gonna go have a cocktail and ponder my life choices.

So their conclusions were wrong.

There is a lot of bad research conducted by medical doctors.

They can put all the warnings they like. I'm not making it through the next four years completely sober. There is just no fucking way.

I really fucking hate the new puritanism.

LET US HAVE OUR SMALL PLEASURES.

It's the same message our bodies get from poluted air, water, and food.

I can sympathize with the need many of us will have to cushion ourselves from the coming horrors.

Watch what you say; you don’t want to end us on ‘Shitler’s list.’

I thought it was a vile drink. Daddy died at 82 and mother at 92.

If I actually listened to all the advice like this, I might live longer or it might just seem like it.

better than margarine. Eggs bad now they are Ok. A couple beers or a glass of wine were good now they aren't.
Coffee bad now I have heard two three cups are OK. You can only consume certain seafood one or two times a month.
They should make a short list of the few things that don't kill us. I will continue to consume all the above and take my chances.

How to Regulate this idea is to have the server download the ID to the State Liquor by the Drink Computer that will show if the Server can Serve the Customer One Drink for 24 Hours.

Per an NPR story I was listening to earlier.