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BumRushDaShow

(149,967 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 04:51 AM Dec 2024

Putin Ally Calls for Alaska's Return to Russia

Source: Newsweek

Published Dec 28, 2024 at 3:05 PM EST Updated Dec 28, 2024 at 4:18 PM EST


Russian TV host Vladimir Solovyov, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, recently called for Alaska's return to Russia during a recent Russian-state media program. Newsweek has reached out to Russia's foreign ministry and the U.S. State Department via email for comment.

Why It Matters

Alaska once belonged to Russia. In 1867, it was sold to the United States after then-President Andrew Johnson signed the Alaska Treaty. It gained the status of a state on January 3, 1959. Alaska and Russia are positioned about 53 miles apart at their closest point. Tensions around Russia and Alaska intensified in January 2024 when reports surfaced that Putin was looking into reobtaining Alaska, reviving an effort pushed by Russian media throughout the ongoing war in Ukraine that Moscow could seize the state.

Tensions remain high between North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and Russia amid the Russian-Ukraine war as NATO leaders have increasingly warned that direct conflict with Moscow is a realistic danger. This comes after Putin and senior Russian officials have repeatedly threatened nuclear escalation against Kyiv and its Western partners since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

Last month, Putin upped Moscow's nuclear rhetoric after the U.S. allowed Kyiv to use longer-range ATACMS to strike inside Russia, formalizing changes to his country's nuclear doctrine that lowers the threshold for atomic weapons use. Along with the nuclear threat, NATO members such as Germany and the Baltic states have accused Moscow of hybrid attacks and said after the Ukraine war, Moscow could then make a move on countries in the alliance.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-solovyov-calls-alaskas-return-russia-2006979

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Putin Ally Calls for Alaska's Return to Russia (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 OP
Good Grief! How long are these ridiculous claims going to go on?? Rhiannon12866 Dec 2024 #1
For as long as some greedy oligarch(s) will keep making big profits Justice matters. Dec 2024 #16
Dueling dicks NotHardly Dec 2024 #17
They are just getting started. They are dividing up the world. Irish_Dem Jan 20 #56
"Putin ally" - Not Trump? keithbvadu2 Dec 2024 #2
Trump isn't so much an ally..... SergeStorms Dec 2024 #32
Dear Lisa Murkowski, how about switching to the Democratic Party now? Walleye Dec 2024 #3
She can't switch RazorbackExpat Jan 2025 #47
It's not impossible 99MainSt Jan 20 #54
Unfortunately, it seems like they are all yellow-bellied cowards Walleye Jan 20 #55
In Albert Camus' play "Caligula," the emperor claimed the moon was his and ordered the army to capture it. C0RI0LANUS Dec 2024 #4
Fun Fact: All russian territory east of Ukraine was conquered from natives. DetlefK Dec 2024 #5
Excellent insight. Both internal empires are parallel except the Russians yelled "Eastward, Ho!" C0RI0LANUS Dec 2024 #24
Excellent historical comparisom...and photos. brush Dec 2024 #26
Thanks, brush, but the preceding DU-er takes the credit. BTW: Here is the film cosmonauts watch before launch. C0RI0LANUS Dec 2024 #28
Good to know ck4829 Jan 20 #49
Same Russky also mentioned California in his spiel about recapturing Russian territory, as well as Hawaii. RVN VET71 Dec 2024 #6
I think some of this BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #7
Not The First Time An Idiot There... GB_RN Dec 2024 #9
We have a whole lunatic party of ones like that BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #12
"also mentioned California in his spiel about recapturing Russian territory" Polybius Dec 2024 #15
There was a Russian fur trading fort-Fort Ross-north of San Francisco. BadgerMom Dec 2024 #38
Yep. And also, the Russian River in Mendocino and Sonoma Counties. DickKessler Dec 2024 #42
Right? ck4829 Jan 20 #50
Yeah. No. GB_RN Dec 2024 #8
And he'd need..... SergeStorms Dec 2024 #33
Russia has become the real Mouse that Roared but with nukes RVN VET71 Jan 2025 #46
Hmmm....Palin could shoot at those attacking commies from a helo or snowmachine Bengus81 Dec 2024 #10
I wish some reporter would ask TFG bronxiteforever Dec 2024 #11
How does one say The Madcap Dec 2024 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #14
Putin is clinically insane... GiqueCee Dec 2024 #18
And we must add, his fart Trump in the mix. Dan Dec 2024 #20
I have no doubt, that Trump would give Alaska to Russia for a face Dan Dec 2024 #19
SOLOVYOV IS DELUTIONAL AZ8theist Dec 2024 #21
I always thought it should be part of Canada. joanbarnes Dec 2024 #22
Why? Russia sold it to the US back in the 19th Century. brush Dec 2024 #27
Will Trump sell Alaska to Putin and keep the money for himself? LiberalFighter Dec 2024 #23
In his DREAMS! AKwannabe Dec 2024 #25
Don't give trump any ideas LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2024 #29
How about we keep Alaska uncledad Dec 2024 #30
Two words bdamomma Dec 2024 #31
Oh, and by the way ... Seinan Sensei Dec 2024 #34
How 'bout No. Iggo Dec 2024 #35
I was waiting for this Figarosmom Dec 2024 #36
I haven't googled it yet, but I'm pretty sure a President can't just give away a whole state. Iggo Dec 2024 #40
When there is no one Figarosmom Dec 2024 #41
The only good thing about the Andrew Johnson Administration heckles65 Dec 2024 #37
Time to post this again Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2024 #39
Come and get it, bitch. nt okaawhatever Dec 2024 #43
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! And so forth! electric_blue68 Dec 2024 #44
Look what tsf started BlueKota Dec 2024 #45
Dear Russia, RazorbackExpat Jan 2025 #48
The stars on our flag Generic Other Jan 20 #51
shithole owes Putin.... Lovie777 Jan 20 #52
"Give him whatever the hell he wants." dchill Jan 20 #53
Russia SOLD Alaska to us in 1867 - it was known as "Seward's Folly" FakeNoose Jan 20 #57

Justice matters.

(8,225 posts)
16. For as long as some greedy oligarch(s) will keep making big profits
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 12:55 PM
Dec 2024

from that continuing sh!t show.

Irish_Dem

(67,152 posts)
56. They are just getting started. They are dividing up the world.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 02:59 PM
Jan 20

It appears it has already been decided.

SergeStorms

(19,538 posts)
32. Trump isn't so much an ally.....
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 06:30 PM
Dec 2024

as he is a fawning fan-boy, or a mewling sycophant, even. Trump worships Putin.

They both make me physically ill.

RazorbackExpat

(439 posts)
47. She can't switch
Thu Jan 2, 2025, 09:40 AM
Jan 2025

because she knows that switching from R to D in Alaska would be committing political suicide

 

99MainSt

(70 posts)
54. It's not impossible
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 02:38 PM
Jan 20

It's possible some moderate Republican members of Congress become so disgusted with the Trump Administration that they switch parties, giving Democrats the majority in the Senate and House. It would only take a small few. If that happened, much of Trump's agenda would grind to a screeching halt.

C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
4. In Albert Camus' play "Caligula," the emperor claimed the moon was his and ordered the army to capture it.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 07:27 AM
Dec 2024

DetlefK

(16,617 posts)
5. Fun Fact: All russian territory east of Ukraine was conquered from natives.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 07:59 AM
Dec 2024

The original medieval kingdom of Russia, the Kievan Russ and its capital Kijv, stretched from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea, across what is modern-day Belarus and modern-day Ukraine. From there, it expanded east with various wars of conquest (the capital was relocated eastwards to Moscow) until it eventually reached the Pacific Ocean.

Maybe Russia should return all their stolen territories to the natives it has subjugated. Isn't it odd that the vast majority of taxpayer-money gets invested into Moscow and St. Petersburg, in classical ethnic-russian territory, while the eastern territories where other ethnicities live get next to nothing?

C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
24. Excellent insight. Both internal empires are parallel except the Russians yelled "Eastward, Ho!"
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 03:35 PM
Dec 2024
19th-century US subjugants:





20th-century Czarist subjugants:




C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
28. Thanks, brush, but the preceding DU-er takes the credit. BTW: Here is the film cosmonauts watch before launch.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 05:28 PM
Dec 2024


"White Sun of the Desert" (1970) is about a Soviet soldier fighting in Turkmenistan and is watched by cosmonauts for good luck.

RVN VET71

(2,860 posts)
6. Same Russky also mentioned California in his spiel about recapturing Russian territory, as well as Hawaii.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 09:09 AM
Dec 2024

I know the Russians had established an outpost in California and may lay an absurd claim there. But Hawaii?

Anyway, I think Putin is smart enough to know the suggestion he take back Alaska is a stupid one. But it's interesting that one of his associates should make such idle dreams public. Russia can pummel a nation like Ukraine, sacrificing its own youth to do so. But on the international scale, sans nukes, Russia is militarily a feeble mouse -- thanks to Pooty-Poot.

(And, yes, the "nukes" thing is very concerning.)

BumRushDaShow

(149,967 posts)
7. I think some of this
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 09:14 AM
Dec 2024

is to mock 45 and his insistence on "taking over" Canada, Greenland, and Panama.

GB_RN

(3,323 posts)
9. Not The First Time An Idiot There...
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 09:17 AM
Dec 2024

Has made this statement. Probably the exact same asshole, I’d bet.

Polybius

(19,623 posts)
15. "also mentioned California in his spiel about recapturing Russian territory"
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 12:48 PM
Dec 2024

When was Cali Russian territory?

BadgerMom

(3,169 posts)
38. There was a Russian fur trading fort-Fort Ross-north of San Francisco.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 08:19 PM
Dec 2024

Fort Ross is still there as a California State Historic Park. It was occupied as a settlement from 1812-1842. The fort was the southernmost Russian outpost on the west coast of North America. My guess is the tsar might not have abandoned it if it had remained active until 1849 and the discovery of gold in the Sierra.

As far as a claim goes, I’m reminded of how my dog claims various bushes every time he takes a walk. Thirty years is nothing. Putin can pound sand. What an asshole.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipMOyX-ILCKPz70grm4xA8qSgJMJOtOu3zf_5MIz=s831-w831-h624-n-k-no

https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=449



GB_RN

(3,323 posts)
8. Yeah. No.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 09:16 AM
Dec 2024

We paid Russia for it. Not giving it back and you assholes can’t afford to buy it back.

You want it? Come and take it. See what happens. Of course, that assumes your troop transport ships will even float once loaded. Based on what I’m seeing of Russian military equipment involved in the War in Ukraine, I’m betting none of them are seaworthy. I’d also bet transport planes aren’t much better off, and I’m pretty sure most of your nukes would blow up in their silos.

(The Russians have never put much emphasis on routine maintenance like Western militaries do. A lot of their ships aren’t much better than garbage scows, as put by someone I know.)

The second most powerful army in Ukraine is a paper tiger.

SergeStorms

(19,538 posts)
33. And he'd need.....
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 06:38 PM
Dec 2024

some troops to put aboard those troop transport ships. He's running out of those very quickly as well. The few who aren't killed or who defect to the Ukrainians are damned tired of fighting Putin's stupid ego-driven wars.

The Madcap

(1,071 posts)
13. How does one say
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 10:13 AM
Dec 2024

"Fox News" in Russian? Solovyev would be working for them if he were American. He's a blathering fool.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

GiqueCee

(2,049 posts)
18. Putin is clinically insane...
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 01:06 PM
Dec 2024

... and is determined to rule the world. The entire planet is in mortal danger as long as this putrid little man fouls it with his continued existence.

Dan

(4,496 posts)
19. I have no doubt, that Trump would give Alaska to Russia for a face
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 01:23 PM
Dec 2024

Saving deal (for Trump) in Ukraine.

Failing that, I think Trump’s first term asking price was $10B.

AZ8theist

(6,676 posts)
21. SOLOVYOV IS DELUTIONAL
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 02:20 PM
Dec 2024

The ridiculous things this psychopath has said on Russian TV is so over the top, not only can he not be taken seriously, one has to question his sanity.
Not only has he talked about "nuking" just about every Western capital, he claimed it would be the same as Sodom and Gomorrah.

His drooling blitherisms are increasingly unhinged:
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Vladimir_Solovyov

He's the "Baghdad Bob" of Russia

brush

(59,413 posts)
27. Why? Russia sold it to the US back in the 19th Century.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 04:46 PM
Dec 2024

It was called Seward's Folly at the time, 1867. The price was 7.2 million greenbacks. Sec'y Seward was ridiculed but he certainly has the last and huge laugh now as Alaska is worth thousands of times more withall of it's size and resources...and of course it's modern infrastructure that has been developed.

I doubt neither Russia of Canada can afford to buy it now.

LetMyPeopleVote

(160,840 posts)
29. Don't give trump any ideas
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 05:52 PM
Dec 2024

Putin spent a great deal to re-elect trump and trump will be looking as to how to repay his debt to Putin

Iggo

(48,753 posts)
40. I haven't googled it yet, but I'm pretty sure a President can't just give away a whole state.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:09 AM
Dec 2024

Figarosmom

(5,001 posts)
41. When there is no one
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:21 AM
Dec 2024

To enforce the laws are we sure he will bother with them?

I'm not so sure there are people that would stop him.

heckles65

(623 posts)
37. The only good thing about the Andrew Johnson Administration
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 07:17 PM
Dec 2024

We got Russia off the continent.

Even if Alaska was completely uninhabitable and didn't have a dime's worth of resources, it was worth it.

BlueKota

(4,131 posts)
45. Look what tsf started
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 03:00 PM
Dec 2024

Hey if this is the way they want it, tsf's incoming administration should start by returning all of North America back to the Native Americans.

RazorbackExpat

(439 posts)
48. Dear Russia,
Thu Jan 2, 2025, 09:50 AM
Jan 2025

You accepted $7.2 million in American gold (equivalent to about a billion dollars today) to relieve yourself of a territory that you were unable to maintain. You legally gave up your claim to Alaska in 1867. Deal with it.

FakeNoose

(37,049 posts)
57. Russia SOLD Alaska to us in 1867 - it was known as "Seward's Folly"
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:00 PM
Jan 20

Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Purchase

Why would those assholes ever think they could take it back now?

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