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Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:50 AM Yesterday

Last night's speech was Trump's tacit SURRENDER to the inevitable.

As media outlets, even FOX and CBS, fact checked his lie-filled demented rant, the following has become clear:

1) he knows Republicans are going to lose big in the midterms

2) he knows, even after gerrymandering and voter suppression, his dozens of court losses are proof there is little left that he can do to stop this bloodbath of an electoral wipeout, and

3) he telegraphed to the Republican congress that he will blame all of them for not passing the SAVE Act to prevent this loss “I’m not a loser, you guys are the losers!”

4) he knows all he can do between now and November is whine, complain, tantrum, and issue empty threats, because the courts and the states will continue to rebuff him and ignore him.

Any other interpretation, or declaration of impending Reichstag fires, martial law or other extreme scenarios are just amygdala-tickling dystopian fantasies.

Yes, yes, he will likely reject the election results, but with even FOX and CBS refusing to buy into his lies about election fraud last night we now know the media narrative post-election will be, as Shakespeare put it:

”It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”


Never forget this one absolute truth:

Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless

Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami!

See you at the victory party in November!
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Last night's speech was Trump's tacit SURRENDER to the inevitable. (Original Post) Fiendish Thingy Yesterday OP
Thank you!!! MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #1
Trump's glass is bone dry Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #2
Bone-spur dry! 🤪 ColoringFool 22 hrs ago #25
Made iced tea come out of my nose. Blumancru 21 hrs ago #51
That sounds like the name of a whine... ultralite001 20 hrs ago #69
or fill it full of catsup before he throws it at the wall... Jack Valentino 12 hrs ago #77
He brought nothing to the table last night Takket Yesterday #3
This isn't the states and courts first rodeo with this kind of nonsense Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #4
🇺🇸 Good! 🇺🇸 ShazzieB 20 hrs ago #55
Right? sedwin 20 hrs ago #70
Kinda figure he might TRY to incite another attack and riot when the time comes a new Senate/House sworn in Attilatheblond 22 hrs ago #30
shithole has his private armed force with psychopaths at the helm.................. Lovie777 Yesterday #5
He knows he is beaten, and is looking for a scapegoat Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #6
Hegseth needs to measure Trump's testosterone leftstreet Yesterday #7
Low T Trump! Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #8
Going with Low-T-rump myself Attilatheblond 22 hrs ago #36
I wish there was a "Recommend & Profusely Thank" button for this posting this thread Tim S Yesterday #9
Great post, thank you Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #10
He's doing this in vain hope that the psycho MAGAs will harass and threaten their Republican Senators ChicagoTeamster Yesterday #11
Any senators foolish enough to let that happen will face a nation full of pissed off women Attilatheblond 22 hrs ago #40
Yes! Faux pas Yesterday #12
Well said! Knr NNadir Yesterday #13
Last night was very telling. SamuelAdams Yesterday #14
It was an "Emperor has no clothes" moment Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #17
Not only is HE clueless, but so is everyone he has in his Cabinet and Administration FakeNoose 19 hrs ago #71
Before the speech I thought Roc2020 23 hrs ago #15
That is such an appropriate Shakespearean quote. flashman13 23 hrs ago #16
Total poetry, for sure. calimary 23 hrs ago #20
He was the master of recognizing false hoods and bombast. flashman13 22 hrs ago #28
Yeah. What does the ranking member of the intel committee know?? dpibel 23 hrs ago #18
I really admire... blue sky at night 23 hrs ago #19
My daughter is a high school English teacher Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #21
I learned a new word today. Amygdada. Dr. T 23 hrs ago #22
Did you read what it governs? And scientific comparisons of its size in people who lean far right Attilatheblond 21 hrs ago #42
I need to do more research. Dr. T 21 hrs ago #44
He will almost certainly do more than "whine, complain, tantrum, and issue empty threats" Martin Eden 23 hrs ago #23
We have to remember January 6th to know what he is capable of doing. kentuck 22 hrs ago #27
My prediction is changed today... Moostache 22 hrs ago #29
I might quibble over a few specifics Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #33
Maybe some crisis will arise and require him to 'spend more time with his family' Attilatheblond 21 hrs ago #43
He also commands ICE and the FBI, regardless of popular support and who controls Congress. Martin Eden 22 hrs ago #41
He has very little actual physical control outside the executive branch Fiendish Thingy 20 hrs ago #61
And yet, he has obeyed all election related court orders thus far Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #32
He has ignored multiple court orders in ICE operations Martin Eden 21 hrs ago #47
I prefer to tickle my cerebral cortex with fact based evidence rather than fact-free fearmongering Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #49
I don't often agree with you Keepthesoulalive 21 hrs ago #53
The Trump-induced widespread suffering is uniting the majority of the nation against Trump and the republicans. Nt Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #54
Sometimes it requires pain Keepthesoulalive 20 hrs ago #57
If he sends in his goon forces to physically seize ballots, we don't have to give them the ballots. GoodRaisin 18 hrs ago #73
He'll most certainly try some fuckery, but he's been successfully pushed back up to this point. D23MIURG23 10 hrs ago #79
Well said. Agree 100% Martin68 22 hrs ago #24
Democrats Communists? Beck23 22 hrs ago #26
They will SAY lots things between now and November Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #34
Well then we should call them Simeofecal Schizofascists. Blumancru 20 hrs ago #64
I've long agreed with you that those who cry "Doom!" should be ignored... Mister Ed 22 hrs ago #31
Vigilance is essential Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #35
AZ Sec of State Adrian Fontes sure recognizes the threats and is working REALLY effectively to protect us Attilatheblond 21 hrs ago #45
This is indeed the proper posturing. drray23 22 hrs ago #38
#3... kentuck 22 hrs ago #37
Now is not the time to crow about "victory party in November". mwmisses4289 22 hrs ago #39
I hear you, however... Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #48
Hes going to invade Iran and call for Marshall Law. BradBo 21 hrs ago #46
If he invades Iran with US boots on the ground, Dems will take back the senate with 53 seats Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #50
Martial not Marshall Blumancru 20 hrs ago #62
Uh oh ... you asked for it dweller 20 hrs ago #67
He still has the power to declare "national emergency" and impose Martial Law. Justice matters. 21 hrs ago #52
For the bajillionth time... Fiendish Thingy 20 hrs ago #58
Yes your words are giving us hope FakeNoose 19 hrs ago #72
Agree! Irrational optimism writ large! Bobstandard 20 hrs ago #59
Exact. Pedo also doesn't care about the blue states or even all states. Justice matters. 20 hrs ago #65
I think that the MAJOR point popsdenver 11 hrs ago #78
I'll be there relogic 20 hrs ago #56
Merci! Mme. Defarge 20 hrs ago #60
He looks and sounds Jilly_in_VA 20 hrs ago #63
Here's hoping the new Dem congress will add significantly to his cardiac stress Fiendish Thingy 20 hrs ago #66
Here's hoping Jilly_in_VA 20 hrs ago #68
Oh, there will be dirty tomfoolery of some kind.... Blumancru 12 hrs ago #74
It doesn't work that way Fiendish Thingy 12 hrs ago #75
Right. There is a lot that "Doesn't work that way" Blumancru 4 hrs ago #80
You should express this in an OP. LuckyCharms 2 hrs ago #81
Appreciate this post! hamsterjill 2 hrs ago #83
Reality is necessarily condescending to dystopian fantasies Fiendish Thingy 1 hr ago #84
From your keyboard to the Goddess's ears ms liberty 12 hrs ago #76
There's a big but in this. COL Mustard 2 hrs ago #82
It always comes down to GOTV Fiendish Thingy 1 hr ago #85
Amen, my friend, amen. Joinfortmill 9 min ago #86

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,347 posts)
1. Thank you!!!
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:59 AM
Yesterday

Love your enthusiasm and optimism.
I'm of the same mind, I've always been a glass half full kinda guy, not a glass half empty.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
2. Trump's glass is bone dry
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:01 AM
Yesterday

We can expect he will throw that glass to the ground and shatter it, while we toast our victory.

Takket

(23,901 posts)
3. He brought nothing to the table last night
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:02 AM
Yesterday

It seems pretty clear his train is out of steam. The only people paying attention to him are the zombies he already controls. But no one else is listening. His final move is going to be moving to cancel the results of the election once it takes place. I only hope the courts and lawyers are all ready for it.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
4. This isn't the states and courts first rodeo with this kind of nonsense
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:07 AM
Yesterday

Ask Rudy, Sidney Powell, John Eastman, Kari Lake and Tina Peters.

Most states have been wargaming various scenarios, as they have every election in the Trump era.

sedwin

(13 posts)
70. Right?
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:50 PM
20 hrs ago

Donald Trump lost over 60 post‑2020 election lawsuits across multiple states, according to a 2022 conservative legal review. He believes everyone is still concerned about his loss six years ago and not about Iran, rising prices across the board, his massive cuts to Social Security and Medicare, the huge erosion of civil rights under his leadership or the masked Trump thugs shooting citizens in the streets. He is totally disconnected from the reality we the people are experiencing today.

Attilatheblond

(9,607 posts)
30. Kinda figure he might TRY to incite another attack and riot when the time comes a new Senate/House sworn in
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:28 PM
22 hrs ago

Not sure how many of his fools will show up, but there are a lot of really foolish people out there still.

Lovie777

(24,802 posts)
5. shithole has his private armed force with psychopaths at the helm..................
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:13 AM
Yesterday

he's got the 6 RW US SC justices, alongwith F.B.I., CIA, DOJ, US AG, and the Intelligence bureau, both chambers in congress. Psychopaths across mostly red states in governorship's and legislation. And a crazy cult, corporate media. Billionaires.

Started conflicts, battles, and bullying allies.

shithole have made the USA now a weak link in the world. shithole terrorizes everyday the American people. Economy sucks. Healthcare for Americans is rock bottom, and jobs are being loss in record numbers.

The republican party seems to be afraid of shithole.

Democrats are not.

With all this said, yea, I think We the People will survive, and yes we will win in November.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
6. He knows he is beaten, and is looking for a scapegoat
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:16 AM
Yesterday

The only people he can’t blame are the voters themselves, because to do so would be to admit he legitimately lost the support of the people.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,754 posts)
10. Great post, thank you
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:35 AM
Yesterday

I hope those who still have some apprehension will read this and understand WE GOT THIS

ChicagoTeamster

(1,612 posts)
11. He's doing this in vain hope that the psycho MAGAs will harass and threaten their Republican Senators
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:38 AM
Yesterday

to vote for passage of the SAVE Act so they can win through voter suppression in November.

Attilatheblond

(9,607 posts)
40. Any senators foolish enough to let that happen will face a nation full of pissed off women
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:51 PM
22 hrs ago

and the men who love/respect them.

Sadly, there are too many foolish senators who want to keep their cushy jobs, and some probably have staffers who will lobby hard to keep theirs too. There is some honor in D.C., but not nearly enough.

SamuelAdams

(489 posts)
14. Last night was very telling.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:53 AM
Yesterday

The "businessman" has no idea how to fix the economy. He has given up even trying. He seems too stupid to realize his policies are what is damaging the economy. The art of the deal guy has no idea how to negotiate an end to the Iran war he started. All he has is lies about it already being won. Even if his claims were true, his SAVE Act wouldn't fix the security problems he was complaining about. For more than a decade he has whined about all our problems. When twice given a chance to fix those problems, he has failed miserably.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
17. It was an "Emperor has no clothes" moment
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:12 AM
23 hrs ago

He stood naked before the world, like no one has ever seen before

FakeNoose

(43,538 posts)
71. Not only is HE clueless, but so is everyone he has in his Cabinet and Administration
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 03:16 PM
19 hrs ago

.... So even if he had accidently hired a smart person who knows how to fix the problems, does anyone believe that Chump would actually listen to the person? Oh hell know, they'd be the first one fired.

Chump is a truly stupid man and this is something we could all see coming from a mile away.

Roc2020

(1,798 posts)
15. Before the speech I thought
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:09 AM
23 hrs ago

after the speech he will make it worse for the republicans in the midterms. Yeah. He made it worse. He is beyond incompetent.

calimary

(91,806 posts)
20. Total poetry, for sure.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:26 AM
23 hrs ago

”It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

Shakespeare didn’t know he was not only a poet, but also a prophet.

dpibel

(4,059 posts)
18. Yeah. What does the ranking member of the intel committee know??
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:20 AM
23 hrs ago

Down there, 4th paragraph. Those words inside quotation marks are from Rep. Jim Himes, ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee.

He seems to have the idea that it would take very little effort to put an election into question. Not, as some posit, a military/police presence at every polling place. Not, as some posit, an impossibly large force. Just a few ballot boxes.

But why should I pay any attention to what a guy who has access to all the intelligence says?

I can get the real info from an anonymous poster on a political discussion website. Whew! I was almost worried there for a moment.

Midnight, election day. Trump announces “secret intelligence” from Venezuela. And savour the absurdity Himes flagged on the way through: Trump and Marco Rubio are effectively running Venezuela now, so the secret intelligence from Venezuela comes from his own blokes. He’s citing himself. It’s a man writing his own reference letter and acting gobsmacked that it’s glowing.

The claim: Maduro’s cousin got at the voting machines in Georgia. Millions of undocumented aliens voted. Therefore, and here’s where your skin should try to leave your body, I am deploying. We are seizing ballot boxes in the critical states.

Then Himes asked the question that ought to be carved above the door of every newsroom on Earth:

“What happens when all of a sudden we’ve lost the chain of custody of 70 ballot boxes in critical states? That is the moment in which American democracy dies.”

blue sky at night

(3,315 posts)
19. I really admire...
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:20 AM
23 hrs ago

Someone that can craft beautiful sentences and takes the time to proofread their work…nice job and I agree with your every point. It took me a second to remember the most ancient part of the brain….amygdala-tickling dystopian fantasies indeed!

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
21. My daughter is a high school English teacher
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:29 AM
23 hrs ago

I have to keep on my toes!

Thanks for the compliments.

Attilatheblond

(9,607 posts)
42. Did you read what it governs? And scientific comparisons of its size in people who lean far right
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:58 PM
21 hrs ago

as opposed to people of more liberal bent? It's interesting stuff.

Dr. T

(906 posts)
44. I need to do more research.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:06 PM
21 hrs ago

I stopped digging at Merriam-Webster. Thanks for doing the work for me.

Martin Eden

(16,184 posts)
23. He will almost certainly do more than "whine, complain, tantrum, and issue empty threats"
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:49 AM
23 hrs ago

I would not rule out sending ICE to polling places to intimidate, or sending the FBI to sieze ballots and voting machines, or even declaring martial law.

The courts can't prevent that, even if somehow a court order is issued in advance. A megalomaniacal dictator will do anything to hold onto power.

kentuck

(116,420 posts)
27. We have to remember January 6th to know what he is capable of doing.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:11 PM
22 hrs ago

He will do anything he can to hold onto power, you are correct. That is why he spends so much time on dividing our country - his side and the other side. His power comes from his cult and their potential to do harm.

Moostache

(11,385 posts)
29. My prediction is changed today...
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:24 PM
22 hrs ago

I anticipate a Democratic wave in the House and a closely divided Senate maybe 51-49, but too close for ANY comfort or bullying by Trump to get his way.

Trump will see the writing on the wall and will resign the presidency (with a full clemency pardon from Vance in hand) and flee the country in 2027. His only concern now is staying out of jail for the rest of his (hopefully VERY short) post-presidency life. He is 80 now, in obvious declining health and likely on a 2-3 year over-under line for survivability. By 2030, the world probably has a 90-95% chance that he is dead either way.

That speech and the response of the networks and some in GOP circles indicate that he lacks the control to command anything after December of this year and that in a new Congress, with a GOP desperate to throw off his yoke for 2028, he will be perilously close to impeachment and removal from office this time. He is a complete coward, so he will run from that fight like Wily-E.Coyote from the Road Runner's traps.

I take solace in the fact that he loses sleep about 2020 still. That shit warms my fucking heart and soothes my tortured soul. Yes Trump has immeasurably damaged this nation, possibly irreparably as well...but at least I know his tiny hands are rubbing every night as he stews in the juices of his own failure and loss and how that makes him undeniably a "loser" the worst thing in his warped little world fashioned by that asshole Fred. Stew in it Donnie. Plan your escape and where you want to die - it won't be in New York, you will NOT be celebrated here or in the majority of the world for anything BUT the act of finally dying and your memory and legacy are ones of graft, theft, fraud and ultimately FAILURE. You die a bum. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
33. I might quibble over a few specifics
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:38 PM
22 hrs ago

Like I don’t think he can or will flee, as he would then be subject to asset seizure/forfeiture, which would leave him a pauper in a foreign land.

Otherwise, I agree with all your adjectives…

Attilatheblond

(9,607 posts)
43. Maybe some crisis will arise and require him to 'spend more time with his family'
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:00 PM
21 hrs ago

on some well insulated island in the Mediterranean?

Martin Eden

(16,184 posts)
41. He also commands ICE and the FBI, regardless of popular support and who controls Congress.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:56 PM
22 hrs ago

This POtuS has immense power at his fingertips, and he doesn't give a damn about Constitutional law or the sworn oath he took.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
61. He has very little actual physical control outside the executive branch
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:11 PM
20 hrs ago

Ten thousand ICE agents terrorized Minneapolis, but couldn’t control the city.

Thousands of national guard troops couldn’t control LA.

His only true power is the ability to sow chaos and destruction.

The states aren’t cowering in fear and complying with his demands, and, finally, neither are many republicans in congress, so why should we?

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
32. And yet, he has obeyed all election related court orders thus far
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:35 PM
22 hrs ago

I don’t expect that to change - he is weak and incompetent.

I do expect lots of noise and political theatre, because that is all he has left.

I would not rule out sending ICE to polling places to intimidate, or sending the FBI to sieze ballots and voting machines, or even declaring martial law.


Taking any of those steps would only make things worse for republicans in general and for Trump specifically, and would not produce the results that you think they would.

If you feel compelled to tickle your own amygdala, please proceed, but don’t expect the rest of us to accept your declarations as evidence based facts.

Martin Eden

(16,184 posts)
47. He has ignored multiple court orders in ICE operations
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:19 PM
21 hrs ago

I believe there is good reason to believe he can impact election results with siezed ballots and voting machines BEFORE any court ruling after the fact can be issued. Also, multiple appeals all the way to the Supreme Court for a final ruling can take months.

I don't claim to know what will happen, but of one thing I am certain:

We should NOT underestimate what this pathological power-mad narcissist will do to retain a compliant congress. The Democratic Party and orginizations need a plan for any contingency.

We don't know what the next few months will bring, but I think it's a safe bet the shitstorm will get worse as the Iran war drags on, supply chains are stretched beyond anything we've seen since the 1973 gas shortages, prices continue to rise, the economic impact hurts more people, and Hair Twitler grows more desperate.

Protests are likely to grow, and this POtuS will be itching to declare martial law. All it takes is some violence, possibly sparked by Proud Boy instigators.

I don't want any of this to happen. I'll be happy as a clam if my worst fears prove to be overstated -- but I don't think anticipating the worst is unreasonable. He has stocked his cabinet with sycophants who will follow any order he issues. No guardrails this time.

Meanwhile we are all free to tickle any part of our anatomy as the urge strikes us, yourself included.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
49. I prefer to tickle my cerebral cortex with fact based evidence rather than fact-free fearmongering
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:39 PM
21 hrs ago

For the bajillionth time, nationwide martial law is a physical impossibility .

So is “strategic deployment” of troops or ICE at polling places in solid blue districts. They simply don’t have enough people.

In election after election over the past 18 month, solid red 2024 Trump +20 districts have swung 15-30 points towards Dems in places like FL, GA and TX - how do they “strategically” interfere with the thousands of polling places in those districts without harming the chances of their own republican candidates for congress as well as down ballot races?

Again, those are actual election results I’m talking about, not polls or pundit prognostications.

I believe there is good reason to believe he can impact election results with siezed ballots and voting machines BEFORE any court ruling after the fact can be issued. Also, multiple appeals all the way to the Supreme Court for a final ruling can take months.


Not true - as we have seen in numerous examples from Bush v Gore to all the evidence free challenges in 2020 that cost many lawyers their licenses to practice, with cases concerning time sensitive election matters, the courts can move quickly, resolving cases in weeks, often in just a few days or hours (see the 60 cases Trump lost in 2020 between election day and the beginning of December when the Electoral College met)

Keepthesoulalive

(2,529 posts)
53. I don't often agree with you
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:52 PM
21 hrs ago

But you are right. His cult didn’t believe his last assassination attempt his constant need for attention and his attack on their lifestyle meaning descent into poverty has them rethinking their priorities.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
54. The Trump-induced widespread suffering is uniting the majority of the nation against Trump and the republicans. Nt
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:55 PM
21 hrs ago

GoodRaisin

(11,263 posts)
73. If he sends in his goon forces to physically seize ballots, we don't have to give them the ballots.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 04:41 PM
18 hrs ago

D23MIURG23

(3,141 posts)
79. He'll most certainly try some fuckery, but he's been successfully pushed back up to this point.
Sat Jul 18, 2026, 12:37 AM
10 hrs ago

He retreated in Minneapolis. He lost on Epstein. He's been reduced to empty threats and bluster on Greenland and Canada. He's been humiliated by the Iranians.

My prediction is that he'll make some half-witted attempts at intimidation or vote seizing, and he'll ultimately fold when he faces determined resistance. He might even tee up his next impeachment for congress depending on how blatantly illegal whatever he does is.

Beck23

(413 posts)
26. Democrats Communists?
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:10 PM
22 hrs ago

This is why the GOP is now calling Democrats Communists. - So they can say they are working with China to hack the election.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
34. They will SAY lots things between now and November
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:39 PM
22 hrs ago

Because that is all they have left.

Even many of the MAGA faithful are starting to tune out.

Mister Ed

(7,025 posts)
31. I've long agreed with you that those who cry "Doom!" should be ignored...
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:32 PM
22 hrs ago

...but I think those who cry "Danger!" should be judiciously heeded.

We know that there is nothing the MAGA maladministration wouldn't do to prevent a free and fair election, but increasingly we see that there is less and less that they can do.

Let us remain vigilant as the blue tsunami gathers to swamp their seawalls and sweep them away.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
35. Vigilance is essential
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:42 PM
22 hrs ago

And I don’t think anyone in the blue or swing states is asleep at the switch, and neither are folks like those at Democracy Docket.

They know it’s likely to get very noisy and messy, which is why they have been staging war games for various scenarios.

It’s not their first rodeo.

Attilatheblond

(9,607 posts)
45. AZ Sec of State Adrian Fontes sure recognizes the threats and is working REALLY effectively to protect us
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:11 PM
21 hrs ago

If anyone wants to show him some support, supporters in AZ would be grateful. Trump's humpers are trying to give him personal trouble on top of wanting him out of office. The man is a fighter, cares deeply about protecting the people's voice.

He barely won his election last time and faced a lot of GOP legal bullshit to get sworn in and do his job for us. If you have some spare coin and want to help us in our work to turn AZ from purple to blue.... Well, thank you for considering helping keep the DEMs in control of Arizona's top jobs, Governor Hobbs, Sec of State Fontes, and our titan of strength and brilliance AG Kris Mayes who meets daily with EVERY DEM state AG via Zoom and has kicked some trump ass around here.

drray23

(8,881 posts)
38. This is indeed the proper posturing.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:47 PM
22 hrs ago

Remain vigilant, do not ignore the potential chaos Trump will try to generate when the gop loses at the ballot box.

At the same time these hair on fire posts basically saying all is lost and there is nothing we can do is ridiculous.

These same people have been telling us for the past few months that for sure, we will have martial law next week ( especially during the Minnesota ICE invasion). I have yet to see that happen.

Prominent democrats like Jim Himes are not throwing in the towel, they are informing the electorate to not fall for Trump's bullshit.

States are already taking measures to protect against election meddling and the speech Trump delivered yesterday will only serve to accelerate that.

Trump and the GOP will fail.


kentuck

(116,420 posts)
37. #3...
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:44 PM
22 hrs ago

" he telegraphed to the Republican congress that he will blame all of them for not passing the SAVE Act to prevent this loss “I’m not a loser, you guys are the losers!”

He will have his excuse. He is not the loser. They are. If they had only done as he asked?

mwmisses4289

(5,429 posts)
39. Now is not the time to crow about "victory party in November".
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 12:51 PM
22 hrs ago
If the victory in November happens, after the election is the time to crow and celebrate, not before.

We did this kinda of thing with Ms. Clinton and Ms. Harris, and look what happened.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
48. I hear you, however...
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:26 PM
21 hrs ago

There must be something to counter the defeatist Doomerism that tends to permeate threads, and we must recognize our opponents’ repeated failures and the successes we have already experienced that point to success in November.

My post was presented in the spirit of forward momentum, enthusiasm and the confidence that, at this moment, we are in the process of winning.

My post doesn’t come from a position of cocky certainty; it is merely a recognition of the evidence that points to our victory.

For the record, the midterms and the presidential elections of 2016 and 2024 are apples and oranges. It is inappropriate to compare two elections dependent upon the electoral college (as well as many other unprecedented factors in 2024) to an election that contains nearly 500 separate races for federal office, as well as hundreds of state and local offices, all decided by simple majority votes.

It is the difference between a sniper with a single bullet and a mob of millions, each armed with a sawed off shotgun.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
50. If he invades Iran with US boots on the ground, Dems will take back the senate with 53 seats
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:42 PM
21 hrs ago

Which is why he won’t invade.

There will be much saber rattling about martial law, but as all rational people know, nationwide martial law is a physical impossibility .

They simply don’t have enough troops to physically control 360 million people over the vast national landscape.

Blumancru

(462 posts)
62. Martial not Marshall
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:12 PM
20 hrs ago

Unless he is planning to intimidate voters with loud guitar music.

dweller

(29,148 posts)
67. Uh oh ... you asked for it
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:21 PM
20 hrs ago
https://m.
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Justice matters.

(10,318 posts)
52. He still has the power to declare "national emergency" and impose Martial Law.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:52 PM
21 hrs ago

RIGGED will be his reason.

He will block a Democratic majority to start in January by any means necessary, and the extreme court will back him.

He will ignore the courts just like he does now.

Fascist dictators with that much power refuse to concede they lost (History proves that).

And nobody will do anything "effective" to stop him.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
58. For the bajillionth time...
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:04 PM
20 hrs ago
Nationwide martial law is a physical impossibility

So is “strategic deployment” of troops or ICE agents to solid blue areas.

He will ignore the courts just like he does now.


Except, for the most part, he doesn’t ignore the courts:

No troops deployed to Portland or Chicago

Kilmer Garcia free on US soil

Liam Ramos and his dad free and home in Minneapolis.

Demands for voting rolls blocked

Indictments for Comey, James and others quickly dismissed

USPS ordered to deliver mail in ballots without interference.

All in response to court orders.

Fascist dictators with that much power refuse to concede they lost (History proves that).


Except when it doesn’t.

Viktor Orban had far more centralized control over the courts, the legislature, the media, elections and the government as a whole than Trump does, and where is he now?

Despite acting with lawless impunity on a daily basis, the fact is, this administration is an evil clown car of incompetent goat rodeo rejects that fails exponentially more than it succeeds.

FakeNoose

(43,538 posts)
72. Yes your words are giving us hope
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 03:21 PM
19 hrs ago

We may actually hang on until 2028 and finally - FINALLY! - be rid of this pox.

Bobstandard

(2,471 posts)
59. Agree! Irrational optimism writ large!
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:07 PM
20 hrs ago

It’s comforting to think Trump is on his last legs, that he’s about to get his comeuppance. It’s wishful thinking

The telling passage in the OP is #4

4) he knows all he can do between now and November is whine, complain, tantrum, and issue empty threats, because the courts and the states will continue to rebuff him and ignore him.


Let’s be real. He has shown no regard for the courts when they rule against him. None of the legal rebuffs have altered his behavior. He’s been putting in place the apparatus necessary to negate even a landslide Democratic election result. The coup is farther along than most think.

Don’t let irrational optimism blind us to reality. Work hard to assure that necessary Democratic landslide. But be prepared for a post election battle requiring real sacrifice.

Justice matters.

(10,318 posts)
65. Exact. Pedo also doesn't care about the blue states or even all states.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:19 PM
20 hrs ago

All he'll have to do will be to (illegally) order his armed goons in ice to circle around the Capitol, and refuse any access to it.

Mark my words. FASCIST dictators NEVER accept defeats. They always find ways to try to win by force.

popsdenver

(2,952 posts)
78. I think that the MAJOR point
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:21 PM
11 hrs ago

that everyone is missing....................

It's not Trump per se, it is the Republican Party !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump would have not lasted one week into his first term if it wasn't for the Republican Senate, The Republican House, and the Republican U.S. Supreme Court.................along with.......The massively Republican owned media, the 2025 group, the Christian Nationalists, the white supremacists, the republican corporations, Citizens United, Putin funneling Millions corruptly through the NRA, Uber Rich Republican Oligarchs from not only the U.S. but from Russian and China.......the list is endless.............

Trump is only a pawn to the Republican Party, they will allow him to do all his shit to give the Media something to print and talk about, and to distract the citizens from all that the Republican Politicians,, Uber Rich Republicans, and Republican owned/operated Corporations, are doing in the shadows, behind smoke and mirrors. They did the same thing during Reagan, and during WBush period...........

The Republicans are going all out, no holds barred, to win this next election to cement their Tyrant/Dictatorship permanently...
IF we even have election.............and if they lose, look at an even bigger J6th with much more horrific actions ........

relogic

(480 posts)
56. I'll be there
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 01:57 PM
20 hrs ago

but don’t invite any billionaire, trillionaires with names like Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk, etc. unless they come clean and admit defeat of their malfeasance and complicity to steal the wealth and government from the people at the bottom who actually make this economy work.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,870 posts)
63. He looks and sounds
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:15 PM
20 hrs ago

like he is dying. Puffy face, can't catch his breath, and God knows what is going on beneath that baggy suit. I said earlier this week that he looks like Exhibit A for my Cardiology instructor's lecrure on congestive heart failure, (She began that series by saying "if we live long enough, every one of us will die of congestive heart failure." Way to wake up a class at 8::45 am, Ms. Parier! But I doubt a one of us has ever forgotten it, I sure haven't!)

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
66. Here's hoping the new Dem congress will add significantly to his cardiac stress
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:20 PM
20 hrs ago

BTW, love your Pogo quote in your sig line - I recently picked up several old collections of the daily strips and find I may have to start micro dosing some hallucinogens to approximate Kelly’s surreal frame of mind in order to comprehend some of the stories…

Blumancru

(462 posts)
74. Oh, there will be dirty tomfoolery of some kind....
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:07 PM
12 hrs ago

The last line of MAGA defense will be to claim fraud. Then for the VP to refuse to swear in new Democratic senators, and the Speaker to refuse to swear in the new Democratic reps. I think it is 50/50 whether our illegitimate Supreme Court would back this, or if it would make any difference if they didn’t.
I don’t know what will happen but I predict a constitutional crisis of some kind this fall.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
75. It doesn't work that way
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:19 PM
12 hrs ago

On January 3 2027, when the new Congress convenes, there is no speaker.

The gathered members-elect, as certified by their states , select a new speaker. Since there will be more Democratic members-elect, the new speaker will be a Democrat.

The new speaker then swears in the rest of the members-elect en masse.

The VP swearing in the new senators is a tradition, not a law- Lindsey Graham’s sister was just sworn in, and it wasn’t by Vance.

The Supreme Court has no role or jurisdiction in the swearing in of any member of congress.

It’s important to understand even the most mundane and minute details of how things actually work before making declarations about your imagined dystopian fantasies.

Blumancru

(462 posts)
80. Right. There is a lot that "Doesn't work that way"
Sat Jul 18, 2026, 06:37 AM
4 hrs ago

Presidents don’t tear down substantial portions of the White House because “it doesn’t work that way”.
People don’t just disappear without due process, effectively suspending habeus corpus, because “it doesn’t work that way”.
Presidents don’t openly ignore the emoluments clause and benefit financially from their office because “it doesn’t work that way”.
Sitting presidents don’t put their faces on currency (or commemorative tokens, or whatever they are calling it), because “it doesn’t work that way”.
Our military doesn’t attack civilian vessels on the high seas and kill the survivors, because “it doesn’t work that way”.
I could go on like this all day, but I’m sure that you get the point.

We are seeing a lot that “doesn’t work that way” lately, don’t you think?
Will he try some disruption of the process for seating the new congress? I think so.
Will he succeed? I don’t know. There are fewer guard rails now than on January 6th.
As far as my “imagined dystopian fantasy”, it is not mine alone, nor imagined. We are living it every day.

Are you on the other side? Your spelling and grammar seem too good for that.

Please try to be less condescending in the future.

LuckyCharms

(23,538 posts)
81. You should express this in an OP.
Sat Jul 18, 2026, 08:19 AM
2 hrs ago

Last edited Sat Jul 18, 2026, 08:59 AM - Edit history (1)



It boggles the mind that some do not understand that he has fucked up the world in such a way that it will take many generations to repair...if we indeed even have the fortitude to PERMANENTLY repair the damage.

"It doesn't work that way"...well, apparently, it does work that way.

Once he was allowed to begin on his path of destruction, once all traditional rules and norms were thrown out the window, then the problem became much bigger than Trump himself. The problem became entrenched, systemic, and exposed to the rest of the world.

Winning the House, and hopefully the Senate is obviously a good thing.

But will that fix the systemic issues? Will that fix the rotted brains of 35% of Americans who support him? Will that fix the wrongful thinking that 35% of Americans have passed onto their children, who in turn will pass it on to their children? Will that regain the world's trust that we won't take the same bad path again? No it won't.

And if we are lucky enough to get Trump removed, then his replacement will be worse. Because his replacement on the surface will be less obnoxious than him, but just as evil.

It needs to be recognized that this is systemic rot involving thousands of bad actors. Systemic rot that cannot be fixed by the removal of one man, or even of one political party. That's how enormous this entire situation is.

Once the genie is let out of the bottle, he can't be put back into the bottle.

And this is what I wish more people understood, and felt in their bones. Because that is the reality.

I agree with you. Holier than thou proclamations on a website are not going to fix systemic and catastrophic problems that have been meticulously planned for decades. Condescendingly scolding people who believe that the problem is deeper than it appears is not going to fix the problem.

The fix to this is not winning the House and Senate.

The real fix to this will involve some unpleasant and difficult reform in order to get rid of the real rot that Trump has exposed and unleashed.

Because even if we manage to remove Trump, there's 20 others waiting to replace him. And then we have the real problem still...the billionaires.

Rose colored glasses and rah rah posts on a website are not going to fix that, and it's a fool's errand to believe that one man is the cause of all of this, and that the removal of one man will fix all of this. In my opinion, that is shallow thinking.

And the next trifecta of a Democratic president, a Democratic House, and a Democratic Senate will be so busy trying to undo the incredible damage that has been done...that nothing will move forward, people will forget, and the problem will repeat itself the next time around when a Republican gains power.

I really wish that people would give more thought to what the REAL problem is, rather than thinking that the removal of ONE MAN will fix the hell that has been unleashed by him, and the trust that has been lost by the rest of the world.

And to draw an analogy...this country was not fixed when the Civil War ended. The issues that fomented the Civil War were just pushed back under a rock.

Unless harsh and seemingly "radical" changes are made after Trump is gone, the problem still exists, and the mistrust by our allies will still exist.

Trump's demise would be nothing more than alleviating an acute flair-up of a persistent chronic condition.

hamsterjill

(18,133 posts)
83. Appreciate this post!
Sat Jul 18, 2026, 08:51 AM
2 hrs ago

As to your question in the next to last paragraph, I’ve often wondered the same thing.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
84. Reality is necessarily condescending to dystopian fantasies
Sat Jul 18, 2026, 09:05 AM
1 hr ago

I was responding to a post that claimed “the speaker would refuse to swear in the new Democratic congress members”, when the current speaker’s term expires on December 31, 2026, and cannot be extended by simply willing it to be so.

The new congress convenes on January 3, 2027, without a speaker, and there is nothing Trump or Johnson can do to change that reality.

Trump’s only real power is his power to sow chaos and destruction- he has very little actual, physical control over anything outside the executive branch, as we have seen time and time again.

He will make a lot of noise and tell a lot of lies when the Dems retake the house, and may even get some US attorneys at DOJ to sacrifice their law licenses by challenging the outcomes of some races, only to lose in court repeatedly as he did in 2020.

Most states are prepared to defend against the use of force to disrupt the certification of their elections (at least for anything save aerial bombing). They have had to deal with these kinds of disruption before, it’s not their first rodeo.

If he panics and attempts to use force to obstruct the convening of congress, he will only be delaying the inevitable, but as we have seen time and time again, at his core, he is a coward. It will just be another TACO Tuesday.

COL Mustard

(8,518 posts)
82. There's a big but in this.
Sat Jul 18, 2026, 08:51 AM
2 hrs ago

THE VOTERS HAVE TO GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

Rant off, but it's still true...if we don't vote in overwhelming numbers, it will be a very different scenario.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,914 posts)
85. It always comes down to GOTV
Sat Jul 18, 2026, 09:36 AM
1 hr ago

Surveys have shown repeatedly that Democratic voters are far more motivated to vote this year than republicans.

Here are some resources where you can play a part in making that a reality:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10115179

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