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PCIntern

(28,888 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:28 AM 5 hrs ago

"Brief and sudden illness"???

It sure must have been brief, because he was scheduled to be on MTP this morning.

Another “interesting” senatorial scenario…

“I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but”…

Nah, I don’t want to say anything inappropriate at this time, it’d be utterly tasteless. And crass.

Nope, I’m taking the High Road….for now.

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"Brief and sudden illness"??? (Original Post) PCIntern 5 hrs ago OP
Recommended. H2O Man 5 hrs ago #1
The weather's fine there durablend 5 hrs ago #3
"But it's a dry heat" Conjuay 34 min ago #54
He's definitely not ok. Omnipresent 2 hrs ago #35
I hope he has a very nice funeral. displacedvermoter 1 hr ago #40
But we already know where all roads lead Lifeafter70 5 hrs ago #2
Yea but 71 year old men just up and die all the time. Lets not get carried away. FascismIsDeath 5 hrs ago #4
You're absolutely right... PCIntern 5 hrs ago #5
It depends on what caused the heart attack, if that is even what happened. FascismIsDeath 4 hrs ago #11
There'd be symptoms of pneumonia... PCIntern 4 hrs ago #12
Sure, could be completely innocent, but given where it happened in the world, paulkienitz 4 hrs ago #13
You are right. Heart attack or a stroke is not a sudden illness. So why be so secretive? Katinfl 1 hr ago #37
Assuming soulless Lindsey had a heart,, agingdem 1 hr ago #41
Maybe he had the same brief and sudden illness liberalgunwilltravel 3 hrs ago #19
You have a good memory for salacious 1970s political trivia. John1956PA 3 hrs ago #21
Happy wasn't so Happy after the event PCIntern 1 hr ago #38
This message was self-deleted by its author liberalgunwilltravel 1 hr ago #45
Megan Marshack was the lady who made Happy displacedvermoter 1 hr ago #46
What can I say? liberalgunwilltravel 22 min ago #58
.... wolfie001 2 hrs ago #33
Yep. Had a very healthy friend who suffered a brain aneurism while shopping. She allegorical oracle 2 hrs ago #26
Lindsay had already lingered for too long. Bumbles 2 hrs ago #29
Check out how he looked recently LeftInTX 5 hrs ago #6
"Brief & sudden illness" vs. an "event" like a heart attack ? CincyDem 5 hrs ago #7
Exactly. PCIntern 4 hrs ago #9
No RandySF 4 hrs ago #10
Could also be a pulmonary embolism caused by deep vein thrombosis. pnwmom 4 hrs ago #14
I was thinking the same thing videohead5 4 hrs ago #16
Ding! Ding! Ding! Roy Rolling 4 hrs ago #17
I know someone who died of that.. ananda 3 hrs ago #18
I remember that young NBC reporter, David Bloom, who was traveling with the troops in Iraq wolfie001 2 hrs ago #32
Are we thinking poison? GPV 4 hrs ago #15
I'm not. I doubt many are. onenote 1 hr ago #47
Cardiac arrest is certainly a sudden medical event JMCKUSICK 3 hrs ago #22
Odd choice of words, indeed.......................... Lovie777 2 hrs ago #27
The reporting is RandySF 4 hrs ago #8
ETTD. Coincidentally he just met with Zelensky and announced sanctions on Russia. lostnfound 3 hrs ago #20
I've been sleeping... Trueblue Texan 2 hrs ago #23
......... wolfie001 2 hrs ago #31
Truly a beautiful day in the neighborhood!!! Trueblue Texan 35 min ago #53
OMFG!!!!! Lindsay Graham CROAKED?!!! Trueblue Texan 2 hrs ago #24
I had to do it............. twodogsbarking 2 hrs ago #25
He just came back from Ukraine - 20 hours on a plane - blood clot? Vinca 2 hrs ago #28
This was my thought Boo1 1 hr ago #42
russki operative wolfie001 2 hrs ago #30
i would love a look inside that box rampartd 1 hr ago #44
I think he drank himself to death. NCDem47 2 hrs ago #34
I can't handle too much alcohol now, and I'm only 63 MrsCheaplaugh 50 min ago #49
Stress at the top bucolic_frolic 1 hr ago #36
Journalese for "Heart Attack." Kid Berwyn 1 hr ago #39
ok. i'm out of the gutter. for now rampartd 1 hr ago #43
No meet the press today, just meet your maker. GreenWave 1 hr ago #48
"sudden illness" has long been a PR euphemism for things like heart attack and stroke Sympthsical 39 min ago #50
Wham Bam thank you Graham Blue Owl 36 min ago #51
Poppers while dancing? flying_wahini 35 min ago #52
🤣😂 👊 Possibly. We'll never know... not that I'd want to know for sure. QueerDuck 28 min ago #57
Me, too. However, when the inevidable finally takes TACO, all bets are off. marble falls 31 min ago #55
Me, too. However, when the inevidable finally takes TACO, all bets are off. marble falls 30 min ago #56
Maybe we should say, "Well done, Ukraine"? sinkingfeeling 22 min ago #59
Well damn dweller 6 min ago #60
I'm sorry he didn't suffer longer EnergizedLib 1 min ago #61

FascismIsDeath

(335 posts)
4. Yea but 71 year old men just up and die all the time. Lets not get carried away.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:40 AM
5 hrs ago

This was unexpected for sure but not unrealistic at all.

PCIntern

(28,888 posts)
5. You're absolutely right...
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:44 AM
5 hrs ago

And please let me add that that can also be said in Russia with the epidemic there of defenestrations and poisonings.

But all jokes aside that’s true. I just wouldn’t classify a heart attack or stroke as an illness. But that’s me.

FascismIsDeath

(335 posts)
11. It depends on what caused the heart attack, if that is even what happened.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:01 AM
4 hrs ago

But it could be as simple as pneumonia or something like that.

PCIntern

(28,888 posts)
12. There'd be symptoms of pneumonia...
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:22 AM
4 hrs ago

There’s either a lot more to this story or nothing at all.

paulkienitz

(1,570 posts)
13. Sure, could be completely innocent, but given where it happened in the world,
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:36 AM
4 hrs ago

and the abruptness of it, conspiracy ideas are gonna be inevitable.

Katinfl

(959 posts)
37. You are right. Heart attack or a stroke is not a sudden illness. So why be so secretive?
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:56 AM
1 hr ago

be straightforward with the cause of death and end the speculation.

agingdem

(9,076 posts)
41. Assuming soulless Lindsey had a heart,,
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 08:07 AM
1 hr ago

and unless he had an undisclosed history of coronary heart disease, reprehensible Lindsey died of a sudden heart attack..the cause is irrelevant because Trump’s ass-kissing toady is still dead..thoughts and prayers!

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,334 posts)
19. Maybe he had the same brief and sudden illness
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 06:15 AM
3 hrs ago

As Nelson Rockefeller. Except instead of a 25 year old woman …

Response to John1956PA (Reply #21)

displacedvermoter

(5,287 posts)
46. Megan Marshack was the lady who made Happy
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 08:36 AM
1 hr ago

unhappy. Covered up nicely, but the story still brings out a nasty chuckle from fans of "salacious 1970s political trivia", which I admit, I too enjoy...

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,334 posts)
58. What can I say?
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 09:31 AM
22 min ago

I’m old. Also a native of NY State and the beneficiary of the SUNY system that Rockefeller started. Pat Moynihan and Jacob Javits were the Senators I grew up with. Back when there were still honorable Republicans. And in today’s world, Nelson would be considered a Social Democrat, except for his misguided views on recreational drugs.

allegorical oracle

(6,762 posts)
26. Yep. Had a very healthy friend who suffered a brain aneurism while shopping. She
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:27 AM
2 hrs ago

was in her 60s and died in surgery when surgeons couldn't staunch the resultant brain hemorrhage. Overall, sudden may be a kinder way to go than lingering for years.

LeftInTX

(35,223 posts)
6. Check out how he looked recently
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:45 AM
5 hrs ago

Congestive Heart Failure?

Although it's not brief and sudden, he may have had it. People can have it for decades, but maybe it caused his cardiac arrest last night?

CincyDem

(7,466 posts)
7. "Brief & sudden illness" vs. an "event" like a heart attack ?
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:53 AM
5 hrs ago

A serious question for the medical types around the board...what's the difference. Not looking for conspiracies or anything but it just seems like a difference without distinction.

Is there some political reason its better (if that's possible) to die of a brief and sudden illness that to announce that he died of a heart attack of a cardiac arrest?

pnwmom

(110,356 posts)
14. Could also be a pulmonary embolism caused by deep vein thrombosis.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:43 AM
4 hrs ago

Everyone knows what a heart attack is, but fewer people know about DVTs and P.E's, which can happen after long plane flights. And a P.E. can damage the heart or cause a stroke.

They might not know exactly how he died unless they do an autopsy.

videohead5

(3,054 posts)
16. I was thinking the same thing
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:53 AM
4 hrs ago

He was just on a very long airplane ride. It's pretty easy to put two and two together.

Roy Rolling

(7,774 posts)
17. Ding! Ding! Ding!
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:53 AM
4 hrs ago

We have a winner!

Just returning from a long flight is the key. A pulmonary embolism checks all the boxes. Not a shockable rhythm, it’s why he needed immediate transport.

I think, technically, a pulmonary embolism’s symptoms are nearly identical to a “cardiac arrest”. Defibrillator usually detects the difference in electrical rhythm. (From a retired EMT)

ananda

(35,948 posts)
18. I know someone who died of that..
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:58 AM
3 hrs ago

and never knew she had it.

It was sudden and unexpected.

wolfie001

(8,307 posts)
32. I remember that young NBC reporter, David Bloom, who was traveling with the troops in Iraq
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:45 AM
2 hrs ago

He seemed in shape but not "combat-ready". All of the sudden the body is in stressful situations. Sad.

JMCKUSICK

(6,989 posts)
22. Cardiac arrest is certainly a sudden medical event
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 06:50 AM
3 hrs ago

I know there are many of us who happen to have had symptoms that we heeded which made us long term medical issue sufferers rather than sudden medical event victims if you will.

There are many people who never have a sign before the Big One.

RandySF

(88,649 posts)
8. The reporting is
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:56 AM
4 hrs ago

that DC Emergency Services desponded to a cardiac “event” at his house on Capitol Hill. I don’t know if he died or at the hospital.

lostnfound

(17,725 posts)
20. ETTD. Coincidentally he just met with Zelensky and announced sanctions on Russia.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 06:30 AM
3 hrs ago

i think it was probably just a heart attack. Years of stress from selling his soul and from travel.

One never knows however.

Vinca

(54,640 posts)
28. He just came back from Ukraine - 20 hours on a plane - blood clot?
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:35 AM
2 hrs ago

Conspiracy me can't help but think now is the time for Russia to poison Ukraine supporters in this country. Our intelligence and federal law enforcement (excluding ICE) has been gutted.

Boo1

(775 posts)
42. This was my thought
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 08:21 AM
1 hr ago

DVT after extended plane ride.

But just a thought, could be anything.

NCDem47

(3,576 posts)
34. I think he drank himself to death.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:50 AM
2 hrs ago

You saw it in his television appearnaces and odd behavior

I've seen it up close and personal. The body can only take so much abuse.



MrsCheaplaugh

(295 posts)
49. I can't handle too much alcohol now, and I'm only 63
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 09:02 AM
50 min ago

For a 71 year old man who's out of shape, heavy drinking is deadly.

bucolic_frolic

(56,506 posts)
36. Stress at the top
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:55 AM
1 hr ago

The wars, the temperatures of global warming, the anger and scheming, the paranoia, the travel, the infighting, the greed.

This is not a relaxed and tolerant space, and no one is getting any younger.

He rose high in life and deserves the respect of office, I suppose. But to me he was just misguided.

Kid Berwyn

(25,690 posts)
39. Journalese for "Heart Attack."
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 08:04 AM
1 hr ago

“Extended Illness” is cancer.

Simplifies pathology to save time for readers.

Sympthsical

(11,368 posts)
50. "sudden illness" has long been a PR euphemism for things like heart attack and stroke
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 09:13 AM
39 min ago

Either the family wants privacy, or they're not definitively sure what caused the death yet and just want to get a notification out there.

Another common acute illness included in this verbiage is pneumonia. Sepsis, too.

Sudden illness is generally just a euphemism for unexpectedly. Usually to signal they weren't secretly suffering from some undisclosed issue. Like sometimes how an actor or whomever has cancer that's been kept from the public (i.e. when Alan Rickman died).

Edit: Dying suddenly at 71 isn't a crazy event. As the other poster noted, he just returned from a long trip. Maybe DVT.

QueerDuck

(2,489 posts)
57. 🤣😂 👊 Possibly. We'll never know... not that I'd want to know for sure.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 09:25 AM
28 min ago

I suspect that in the end, more truths will come out. All the things that LG wanted to keep secret (whatever they may have been) and all the things that his handlers and blackmailers were using against him to keep him in control and make sure that he toed the line. It will be interesting to see how this develops and how long it takes for the truth to bubble up to the top of the LG cesspool of lies.

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