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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYour Electronics Are About to Get Way More Expensive By Nitish Pahwa
Last Thursday, Apple announced price hikes on various MacBook and iPad models, while hinting in a statement that more are coming across its product suite. On the very same day, Microsofts Xbox declared that it would stop producing consoles that can store up to 2 terabytes of memory, while raising the costs on its 1 terabyte and 512 gigabyte modelsfollowing another round of price increases last October. Supplies of smaller memory processors, like solid-state drives, are drying up on the market, fueling a crunch thats hitting smartphones and laptops of all brands.
Most electronicslaptops, tablets, gaming devices, phones, your next car, your next smart TVare getting way more expensive, thanks to a simple supply-and-demand conundrum. Memory chips, the components that provide such devices with storage capacity, have faced global shortages over the past few months and are nearing a crisis point. Yes, as these companies statements uniformly note, those chips are being taken up by the A.I. data center rush, with Google and OpenAI leading the way in hoarding these processors. But that construction boom isnt the only factorand the fallout from this supply squeeze is roiling every corner of the global economy, from stock markets to manufacturing capacity to trade relations. All of it, unfortunately, has been passed down to your pocketbook in one form or another.
The artificial intelligence boom has been roaring for a few years now, but a few key factors have made this summer a particular inflection point. For one: the Strait of Hormuz. The East Asian economies that collectively dominate the worlds semiconductor and consumer-tech sectorsSouth Korea, Taiwan, Japanhave been wracked especially hard by the wartime closure of the strait, as they not only receive energy supplies through the waterway but also import the valuable metals, minerals, and gases they need to make chips.
Compound that with domestic crises like a narrowly averted Samsung factory strike and an overall slowdown in non-tech industries, and things have become rather volatile on the peninsula. A massive tech selloff roiled Korean stock indices over the past month, as the severity of wartime shortages became clear. Those stock dips then crossed the Pacific and fueled a stateside panic, causing even highly capitalized players like SpaceX and Oracle to plunge in value. As of this writing, neither company has fully rebounded from those market losses. The message from those stock tickers is clear: Even A.I.-bullish investors are nervous about how the biggest companies in the space will fare without jacking up costs on all their products going forward.
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dalton99a
(96,434 posts)indusurb
(369 posts)A new phone isn't necessary, heck a mobile phone isn't necessary, we got along fine with landlines and answering machines for decades. A new laptop or desktop computer isn't necessary, neither is a new gaming console(probably do you a world of good to put the controller down, go out and touch grass and read a book). You don't need a new car, a twenty year old model gets comparable gas mileage as modern cars, has little or no computing on board, and even after buying it and giving it a frame off restoration is still cheaper than the vast majority of new vehicles. And really, nobody needs smart appliances, TV's, toasters, fridges, any of that.
We have been sold the lie that we need this whole tech ecosystem that we have to update every few years, a bill of goods concocted out of thin air in order to drive up the profits for corporate America. Meanwhile most of these improvements don't matter. Audio companies used to drive sales by bragging about the numbers on their systems, frequencies, high end, low end, etc to show how advanced their system was. The trouble was the human ear isn't built to discern these differences in high fidelity. Same thing goes on now with televisions, ultra 4K HD, etc. when the human eye simply can't discern the difference. This goes on and on throughout the tech world, corporations selling crap that looks good on paper, but in real world practice doesn't make a bit of difference. Yet the rubes keep using it up, throwing away perfectly functional goods in order to have the latest and greatest, creating a vicious cycle that pollutes our world, drains our resources, and empties our wallets. Mass consumerism is a curse that we need to get rid of before it kills us.
Cheezoholic
(4,176 posts)should be outlawed. I used to buy them for pennies on the dollar because I could use some parts out of and recycle as much of one as I could but, as you said, the bulk of them end up trashed. These electronics are full of poison.
Cheezoholic
(4,176 posts)3 to 5 times crank in prices. I had RAM to build 10 PC's to sell. I sold the RAM on Ebay and made a 3k dollar profit on 700 dollar investment in 1 year. I know some other builders who had 5x's as much as me and they also stopped building and just resold the parts. I mean, nobody was going to pay 2.5k for an 800 dollar PC. That's insane.
Nearly all the RAM that will be produced through 2027 is already sold. Companies like Apple etc. have gone through their back stocks and are being forced to purchase it at these crazy prices. Everything that does any kind of "computing", even smart watches and phones, cars, smart appliances use it and are going up in price. The price shock that those of us that build PC's and sell them as a side hustle to make a few extra bucks have been feeling for a year (and put most of us out of business) is hitting goods across the board now. Hell, DDR4 RAM, which was the mainstay for years that no longer is produced, is being hoovered up at insane prices on Ebay and other sites. That's how desperate it is. And its not just RAM. There are no longer "disk drives" in these PC's etc. They all have some version of a solid state drive which uses the same tech as RAM at its core and the prices of those have gone up just as much.
Part of the issue is there are really only 2 factories in the world that produce the chips for these stuff. That's what the CHIPS act was for under Biden, to prevent this. While that's great, it takes up to 5 years to bring these chip factories online. They aren't the assembly line factories of the 20th century.
And like anything else don't look for much price relief once this scarcity of these chips lessens. Once the billionaires who own companies that use these chips see that they can sell their product at the inflated price, the parts for it might come back down but the product will stay inflated and their profits will grow. That is unless the entire world economy collapses.
hunter
(40,972 posts)Sure, you can buy a Microsoft, Apple, Android, or ChromeOS device but you don't truly own it. Building powerful computers from components or converting existing machines to operating systems that actually belong to you, the user, is increasingly difficult -- ranging from the nearly impossible with cell phones to the merely difficult with desktop computers.
In the modern world our personal electronic devices act as terminals connected to giant data centers owned by someone else. I'm not confident this will change whether or not the AI bubble bursts. The data centers will still be hungry, diverting powerful microprocessors and memory from consumer markets.
fujiyamasan
(2,202 posts)Its the same whining from gamers when video card prices shot up when NVIDIA shifted heavily toward enterprise AI customers. Historically memory was considered very cyclical and almost a commodity in the semiconductor world. Memory is now considered one of the major AI/data center bottlenecks and is constrained likely through 2027 at minimum.
Thats why Micron has had a stock run up the way it has. The Korean KOSPI index is up around 100% this year alone because its dominated by two memory/semi companies SK Hynix and Samsung.
Apple is considering sourcing memory from China, but I believe there are restrictions in place. I think theyre hoping all that ass kissing and bribes toward the ballroom will pay off and Trump will ease them.
If this is the bubble it appears to be, they will overproduce, leading to a glut and eventually prices will fall.