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senseandsensibility

(25,951 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:50 PM 23 hrs ago

JD or Rubio?

Who's going to come out of this Iran debacle more humiliated? This morning JD went on FAUX to defend trump and he stated confidently that the strait was open. Shortly afterward the Iranian announced that it was closed. He admitted that he had gotten his info from trump's son-in-law and real estate buddy. And now he is supposedly going to Iran to be the face of the negotiations and trump has already announced that he will blame it all on JD if it goes south.

Then there's Rubio was part of this whole MOU, which even Rs have called a "surrender". He was actually in France while the whole thing went down standing in support behind trump while he rambled incoherently for hours. He looked like his soul was leaving his body, but he was there and he owns it. It will live on video forever if little Marco decides to run in 2028.

So, JD or Marco? Who's the biggest loser?

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wcmagumba

(6,904 posts)
1. In my mind they are equal suck ups and no nothing losers...it's amazing what we are getting as "leaders" these days...
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:55 PM
23 hrs ago

hlthe2b

(115,134 posts)
2. Rubio is probably marginally smarter than Vance... Knows how to protect himself better...
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:56 PM
23 hrs ago

And, Vance, as Vice President, is the one person Trump can't fire so that probably rankles him constantly. That alone will make Trump target JD.

senseandsensibility

(25,951 posts)
7. I don't know why but I can't see images posted on DU lately
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:06 PM
22 hrs ago

Could you give a brief description of the image?

mr715

(4,783 posts)
5. Rubio is Trump's golden boy.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:03 PM
22 hrs ago

Vance will be receiving blame behind the scenes, but is not fireable.

sop

(19,798 posts)
8. Rubio's been keeping a lower public profile during this whole fiasco, hoping the stench doesn't stick to him.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:09 PM
22 hrs ago

JD's been more out front, he'll get most of the blame. I think both of them will be radioactive to GOP voters by the time it's all over.

senseandsensibility

(25,951 posts)
9. I noticed that too
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:11 PM
22 hrs ago

He thinks he's clever, but he is the SOS and he is visibly part of these negotiations no matter how he tries to melt into the furniture.

MadameButterfly

(4,264 posts)
10. The only hope for either of them is a dictatorship where
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:14 PM
22 hrs ago

they both manage to have some power. Of course who rules or has any status in a dictatorship may not be up to them.

If democracy prevails, they are both cooked. Both responsible for Trump's actions. Probably neither of them would have started the war with Iran--they would have listened to the experts. But that doesn't matter. They are the face of Trump's disasters and they will be held responsible.

Hey Joe

(886 posts)
13. Rubio has farther to fall since he once had the
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:58 PM
22 hrs ago

respect of many people and at least knows a thing or two about negotiating terms of an agreement.
JD ? Er, everyone knows he’s a putz with little to no experience or ability. So no higher expectations for him other than being a fluffer.

rubbersole

(11,343 posts)
16. JD has always been a wet fart.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 06:07 PM
19 hrs ago

Lil' Marco has lost any respectability he may have had. I'm in Florida and Rubio was always a two-faced charlatan piece of shit. Neither of them are going anywhere except the Hague.

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