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muriel_volestrangler

(106,797 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 09:17 AM Thursday

Trump gave in to Iran because he didn't want to be a new Herbert Hoover

via Lawyers, Guns & Money

But it was Mr. Trump himself who offered what may be the most cleareyed answer about why he needed to end this war so fast. He didn’t want comparisons to Herbert Hoover, he told reporters at the Hotel Royal in Évian-les-Bains, on the shores of Lake Geneva, on Wednesday.

“He was always the one I didn’t want to be,” Mr. Trump said of the 31st president, who presided over the market crash that ushered in the Great Depression. “I didn’t want to see economic catastrophe.” Later he noted that if the war continued, the world would have begun to run out of oil stockpiles.

That combination — economic chaos and disrupted oil markets — is exactly what the Iranians viewed from the opening days of the war as their most potent weapon. They executed on that vision with precision, closing the strait and blowing up petrochemical facilities, desalination plants, hotels and air bases across the Gulf. And by the president’s own testimony, it worked.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/17/us/politics/trump-iran-deal-nuclear-program-strait.html

When this regime is dispersed, we'll get the self-serving memoirs of "I warned this would happen, but no-one listened" (Vance sort of got there early, which may be why he's getting blamed for the MoU now - the others hope they can destroy him before he gets the "I was the Republican who understood things" reputation). There must have been several people in the planning who could have seen what would happen. Why did common sense not prevail? Had they got rid of enough realists that the crazies just carried the day with shouting?

Though Hoover wasn't anywhere near as active in causing his problems. He just didn't take actions to solve them.
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Trump gave in to Iran because he didn't want to be a new Herbert Hoover (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Thursday OP
Hoover gets a bit of a bum rap ITAL Thursday #1
6 bankruptcies UpInArms Thursday #2
Hoover's ultra-conservative pro-business laissez-faire economics is still influential bucolic_frolic Thursday #3
Trump basically said that he did what no one else would... sboatcar Thursday #4
Too late Fiendish Thingy Thursday #5
I'd guess he's snowybirdie Thursday #6

ITAL

(1,430 posts)
1. Hoover gets a bit of a bum rap
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 09:25 AM
Thursday

At least as far as doing nothing goes. He didn't just sit in the White House and do nothing. It's just what Hoover tried didn't work...or he didn't do enough of to work.

https://www.history.com/articles/great-depression-herbert-hoover-new-deal

sboatcar

(917 posts)
4. Trump basically said that he did what no one else would...
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 10:22 AM
Thursday

and that's because Iran would put a stranglehold on the world oil supply. They didn't want the war, but they knew that if they got one, they would hold all the cards and be the ones negotiating from a position of strength.

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