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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf he dies, don't think Vance won't be worse
At least domestically...
https://newrepublic.com/post/211828/trump-close-suspend-constitutional-right-habeas-corpus
Last year, the Trump administration was considering suspending the constitutional right of habeas corpus, The New York Times reports.
Some officials pushing President Trumps mass deportation agenda, chiefly White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller, wanted to get rid of the key right, which compels the government to explain in court why it has detained a person. Millers goal was to prevent immigrants in government custody from receiving hearings or court orders blocking their deportation.
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After Alex Pretti was killed by federal agents in Minnesota in January, administration officials, led by Vice President JD Vance and Miller, revived the idea of using the Insurrection Act
Torchlight
(7,184 posts)Dumber? Sure. More irrational? Most certainly? Worse? Not enough juice.
Blue Owl
(59,936 posts)If theres not a couch nearby, he might get desperate
bamagal62
(4,645 posts)Rigged everything to keep their agenda going. Thats my worry about him.
hlthe2b
(115,106 posts)the same "free pass" they've given Trump--at all. Yes, Trump is arrogant too, but he does apparently exude some kind of "charm" that most of us are immune too, but it does exist for some.
SheltieLover
(82,525 posts)SheltieLover
(82,525 posts)ZDU
(1,559 posts)SheltieLover
(82,525 posts)ZDU
(1,559 posts)SheltieLover
(82,525 posts)Quiet Em
(3,201 posts)falling all over themselves to normalize anything he does.
SheltieLover
(82,525 posts)eppur_se_muova
(42,855 posts)bamagal62
(4,645 posts)ZDU
(1,559 posts)When he's dead, this shit will spiral..
I can hardly wait for the fallout.
Queue the Rubenesque Ladies!!!
SheltieLover
(82,525 posts)Aristus
(72,697 posts)I'm in!
ITAL
(1,430 posts)I've never seen anything like the way that core group of republicans (I'm not talking about politicians, but ordinary people) rally around Trump. Those people are the ones that keep the politicians in DC in line, since they primary out whoever is perceived as a thorn in his side. So from that stand point Vance won't be worse, because he doesn't have that hold on people. Maybe he'd WANT to be worse, but he doesn't have that following, so the congressmen and senators won't be afraid of going against him and losing their careers as a result.
pat_k
(14,459 posts)... Christian Nationalist agenda that he can get away with backed by the felon's hold on the party.
The "worst" Vance would do has been/is being done already.
bamagal62
(4,645 posts)The keys (tapes) to the kompromat that Trump apparently has. There has to be something other than just losing their seat.
ITAL
(1,430 posts)Every single time a republican goes against them he ends their career.
WmChris
(813 posts)That cadre is made up of republican highly unqualified, bigoted, misogynistic, phony christian, asshats all looking to enrich themselves on the backs of the American people. When he goes nothing changes but the names of the drifters in charge.
J_William_Ryan
(3,628 posts)Trump is the product of decades of a conservative assault on democracy and the rule of law.
Consequently, Vance would be as bad if not worse.
Kaleva
(40,473 posts)Along with most every other form of authoritarian government.
Kaleva
(40,473 posts)lindysalsagal
(23,006 posts)Rackett was personality driven by djt's fear of prison. He bought off scotus, but jd wasn't part of it. The rest of the cabinet has no protection from prosecutions and their lawyers will pull them back to norms and practices.
Polybius
(22,262 posts)Vance won't compare the Obama's to apes.
lame54
(40,373 posts)Or as forgivable
Excuses are made for Trump's behavior
Vance won't have that
Maru Kitteh
(32,084 posts)in a vain attempt to to save himself and he will do all this with the persuasive grace and sophistication he is known for. Which is to say, he will not do well.
Sneederbunk
(17,731 posts)niyad
(135,113 posts)doing all the work, along with thiel and the other scum. The orange screwworm is the bright, shiny thing, and is far too lazy to do any real work. If krasnov stops wasting oxygen, the cult is not going to fall at jd's feet.