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applegrove

(133,573 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 04:11 PM Monday

Vance is such a good Catholic he doesn't want people to follow the new Pope:

Vance Talks About Disagreements with Vatican Officials

June 15, 2026 at 2:37 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 41 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2026/06/15/vance-talks-about-disagreements-with-vatican-officials/


Vice President JD Vance says in his new book that his meeting last year with Vatican diplomats in Rome was “unsettling” as they uttered what he describes as “trite platitudes” and “clichés,” adding that he preferred the direct rebukes offered by Pope Francis, the Washington Post reports.
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Walleye

(45,737 posts)
1. "Trite platitudes" like, love thy neighbor, welcome the stranger, etc.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 04:13 PM
Monday

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pwb

(12,816 posts)
5. Any mention of Jesus and they flip out.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 04:52 PM
Monday

Christian Nationalist mostly speak of God. Christ is just used as part of their title. Catholics are all about Jesus so Vance is not a good Catholic. IMO.

ananda

(35,719 posts)
11. My Cathlolic family, relatives, and ancestors followed Christ.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 06:17 PM
Monday

My mother taught us about poverty and how to
think well about the poor and people who are not
white.

If it weren't for her, I'd be a Magat. All of my Dad's
side were groomed to be racist, sexist, and
homophobic.

oasis

(54,218 posts)
10. Vance better enjoy any "fame" he has now.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 06:12 PM
Monday

In a few short years he’ll be just another “has-been”.

haele

(15,691 posts)
12. There are several flavors of Catholics, not all of them follow the Pope.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 06:32 PM
Monday

Dominicans, Opus Dei, Rad Trad types are Catholic in as they follow the Rituals and use the Vulgate Bible, but they don't see eye to eye on the authority of the Pope.
Not quite a Rome and Avignon situation, because they do like to partake of the wealth of the Roman Catholic Organization, but they have no problems saying the Pope "ain't the Boss of them "- the God between their ears apparently is.

Boomerproud

(9,400 posts)
13. Very good points.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 07:51 PM
Monday

My SIL would fall under the Rad Trad label. We avoid deep discussions.

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